An HTML question or two for you...

[Cunobelin Of Hippo]

Okay, here's the situation.

I know basic HTML, sufficiently so that I can write my own little webpage without flipping through a book. We're going into another unit in Info Tech class and it's going to involved a lot of HTML, but probably not a lot of stuff that I am interested in learning. (ie:text styling, linking, image placement ) I CAN however score a lot of bonus marks for including extra features on pages we'll be writing. Sooo......

Anyone like to give me a concise little set of tabs that one would use to create a table, a 'two-windows-in-one' (can't think of the right word. Frames maybe? ), and whatever else one deems basic (and non-java involving!) enough that it can be taught in a single post?

Thanks.

 

[CornMaster]

Well....the two types of frams that I know how to create are probably more involved then you want to get into. (They involve multiple HTML pages (2 or 3) )

But a table is real easy to make. It's not the same as a frame...but for a basic webpage...it should serve you well. NOTE: HTML is disabled on the forum....so you will see the code. I'll attach a html file with the code in action.

First: We declare a table.

<table>

Then we declare the table rows and then the table cells

<tr><td>Hello</td><td>There</td></tr>

You have to make sure you close each tag...or more than likely, your table won't even show up.. (At least in Netscape )

Now that would create a table like this (figure 1):

<table border=1>
<tr><td>Hello</td><td>There</td></tr>
</table>

It's probably not excatly what you need. You want something full screen right??? So you do this (figure 2):

<table width=100% border=1>
<tr><td width=20%>Hello</td><td width=80%>There</td></tr>
</table>

Now that should provide the look you want. But the border kind of messes it up right?? Well sorry Mr. Fancy Pants. I'm using it to show you where the tables are. You can just take the "border=1" out. I'll leave it out for the next one. (figure 3)

<table width=100%>
<tr><td width=20%>Hello</td><td width=80%>There</td></tr>
</table>

Now....that should be all you need to make the table you want. Make sure that you seperate your info inside the tags with normal <br> tags and then it will look like this: (Figure 4)

<font size="+3"><center>Welcome!!!</center></font><br>
<table border=0 width=100%>
<tr><td width=20%><h3>Links</h3>
<br>
<br>
<a href="aboutme.htm">About me</a>
<br>
<br>
<a href="pics.htm">Pictures</a>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.civfanatics.com">CivFanatics</a></td><td width=80%>Welcome to my test page. I would type info here. For example: asdjngbajdglkahdfkjagafgafjgbalfnh adfjhafhangfjhnagjknhangkhnakgnhagnhnagfnhnafdnghanf hnadfnhjnadljfhklandlhnalkjgnhanghnajndflhajknha nlghanghjnakjlgnhlangjhagfh
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
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<tr><td colspan=2><center>© Thomas Hawkins, CornEmpire Software</center></td></tr>
</table>

If you need anymore info...just ask.
If you want to get into frames...I can help you there too. I know basic frames, that work in both browsers. I also know iframes, but they only work in IE. But they are much cooler!!!

To see the same webpage with the two different types of frames check out: http://www.angelfire.com/geek/cornempire/iframe.htm (Iframes)
http://www.angelfire.com/geek/cornempire/basic.htm (Normal Frames)

 

[Cunobelin Of Hippo]

Thanks a bunch Corn! It's much appreciated I'm gonna go try some tabling now...

 

[t92300]

A good WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) programme is ms front page express not front page 98, 2000 but front page express
its basic, dosent chew up tags it dosent know, its free it comes with microsoft office programmes in a zip file called some thing like fpexpress.zip execlent! and higly recomended you can then put in your own html tags after creating the page with it

t92300

 

[CornMaster]

Originally posted by t92300
A good WYSIWYG

No offence....but Bah....

Be a real man and code the page by hand. Sure it's harder but you get more creative control. Plus these editors often add garbage code that doesn't do anything.

And when front page starts giving you "Fatal Exception 0D in module kernal32.dll at address 0034:9B766CF76" you can't work. But notepad will always be there for you.

I've been coding webpages for 4 years now....and I've only used a WYSIWYG editor once. And only once.

 

[starlifter]

Front page is corrupt and an abomination to the free world. Front patge and all its incarnations should be rooted out and savagely deleted. I produces numerous errors and deliberatly incompatible code. Death to FP!

BTW, Dreamweaver is a pretty darned good program. Far far far superior to anything produce by M$. The Netscape editor is free, and more compatible and reliable than FP.

Hand coding, with cut and paste and a good HTML book makes the best pages of all.

 

[t92300]

Guys its Frontpage Express very simple programme not FP 98 or 2000 now those I find to complicated to use and not very simple but I also edit the html as well some times depends on what I m doing but FP Express very simple!

 

[starlifter]

As teh Midnight hour approaches, a strange mournful mutter approaches from a shallow hill near Redmond.... Dozens... no wait.. Hundreds of points of yellowish flickering light are coming... Now the numbers are in the tens of thousands.... peasants with torches... ready to Purify the evil of Micro$oft thru the sanctity of fire... in the Predawn hours, the scorge of Frontpage and all its decrepit incarnations are made pure...

:midfinger M$!!!

Indeed, now the great Satan of the Software world is made pure .... and the peasants return home in joyful rapture.

 

[Juize]

Thanks CornMaster! I know also just basic HTML,
and have long time (2 years!) looked for that info.

PS: Windoze isnt so bad, but Frontpage...
uke: It's the worst program in universe...

 

[t92300]

I agree with you guys front page 98 is one of the worst programmes around

but then FP express the free version is probably the best MS programme around

try it

 

[Jezner]

When I did HTML on Win machines, I used Homesite which in my humble opinion is the best HTML editor around. Its no WYSIWYG, its a developing evironment which allows server side browsing so you can write asp and php and see the result without ever alt-tabbing to your browser.

I use Linux now so I'm primarily a Quanta man now. But if you use Windows, forget Frontpage and go for the real deal.

(No, I don't work for Allaire )

Also, dreamweaver is pretty good.