Mowque
Hypermodernist
Maybe several hundred years ago.
An upper class ?
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Maybe several hundred years ago.
He is right, we chop those who believe they are owed a higher status due to wealth down fast.
Our tallest poppy Sir Edmund Hillary could hardly be described as wealthy, but he earned his standing in the community.
Noticeable that he preferred to be called Ed, a humble man Sir Edmond.
Bast
Protector of Cats
Somebody from upper class is a person of good breeding who is well educated, well mannered and is exceptionally cultured. It has nothing to do with wealth.
It's like "grace", you can't buy it, you either have it or you don't.
It's like "grace", you can't buy it, you either have it or you don't.
Since I don't believe the people in question turn a profit solely by having peasant tenants work their extensive tracts of land and pay rents, would not the term be inappropriate?
Elta
我不会把这种
Except that there are no working or middle class people who are upper class. ..... so it does matter.
Bast
Protector of Cats
That's not true. Of course, if you're living below the poverty line then yes it will have an influence on many other things but I don't think this is true for other people.
You are putting somebody in those said classes merely from their income or wealth.
kulade
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sounds rasist
Elta
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No I am not, and you did not read my earlier post.
It is a matter of culture and economic standing.
You did not read my earlier post, how low class of you
That's a admirable trait and is also revered here too. Basically, we both like the underdog. Where I think we differ is we place a high value on skills and leadership regardless of status and you'd rather find their weaknesses and prefer they fall from grace.
We're not royalists so that doesn't resonate here. I think many Americans find trust fund kids much less appealing than those who've stepped up to make a mark and become leaders in whatever field they excelled in. How you're bred has nothing to do with how well educated, mannered, cultured or, as snakeseare said, "classy" a person is here.
Bast
Protector of Cats
You can't buy culture. They're two completely different things.No I am not, and you did not read my earlier post.
It is a matter of culture and economic standing.
You did not read my earlier post, how low class of you
Bast
Protector of Cats
Elta
我不会把这种
Hence the word and
They use and in the southern Hemisphere right?
*Edit*
I am rereading this to make sure I didn't mix something up..... but I think someone has just been that ignorant on a very short post.
Shylock
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No, but you can adjust the slider a bit.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
That's why I use upper, middle, and lower income... there are rich people with no class, after all.
They had a poll for the most trusted and greatest living Kiwi. Corporal Willi Apiata VC was found to be that person.
Victoria Cross awarded for the valor he showed in carrying a mate to safety under heavy machine gun fire.
He then gifted his VC back to the nation.
A man of class and leadership, but not a man of wealth.
But I have no time for those who would worship the wealthy for the fact they are wealthy.
holy king
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holy king
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social class is economic class.
Patroklos
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Far from it. For instance, I know of some very humble local poets and artists who are free to navigate through the upper crust of Charleston society, and they are dirt poor. At the same time I am friends with a local concrete contractor who is swimming in cash who would not be welcome in the same circles (and could care less about it).
They are two completely distinct measurments, it is the insecurity of class warriors that insists they be linked.
Another measurement beyond culture or wealth to measure who gets to be within what circles is power. A police chief does not have wealth and may be crude as hell, but he moves through the upper social circles all the same. Even in my case to a limited degree, if I throw on my SDBs I am more than welcome to be included inside circles I otherwise wouldn't be.
They are two completely distinct measurments, it is the insecurity of class warriors that insists they be linked.
Another measurement beyond culture or wealth to measure who gets to be within what circles is power. A police chief does not have wealth and may be crude as hell, but he moves through the upper social circles all the same. Even in my case to a limited degree, if I throw on my SDBs I am more than welcome to be included inside circles I otherwise wouldn't be.
