Romney met with the President already. Wasn't even detained for his tax evasion.
Analysis of Romney's defeat
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Ziggy Stardust
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@Kman: Explain to me why you think lobbyists are ok.
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Hopefully the President was just humoring Sharpton and Maddow, with his signed Grover Norquist pledge already in his back pocket.
What's wrong with Al Sharpton? Are there advocates for the poor and disenfranchised that you'd approve of?
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Hahahah, ours is a country where the lesser of two evils prevails over the people.@Kman: Explain to me why you think lobbyists are ok.
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Hahahah, ours is a country where the lesser of two evils prevails over the people.
You think corporate control over policy is the lesser of evils? Am I reading you right?
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I find Sharpton to be particularly disgusting.
I know that, going in to meet with corporations... or rather, I would that, Obama is going to really dissect what they say because he (campaigns that he) isn't a corporate lap dog.
I don't think entertainment figures/shakedown artists such as Sharpton should even be given the time of day.
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Nevermind, Obama is now meeting with the corporations...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57557326/fiscal-cliff-talks-frozen-obama-lobbies-big-business/
Politics... ugh... seriously.
Repubs, just let the rich pay 2% more in taxes, it isn't going to kill us...
It's 2% for crying out loud... anyway, their tax attorneys will find ways around it, so I really don't see the problem.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57557326/fiscal-cliff-talks-frozen-obama-lobbies-big-business/
Politics... ugh... seriously.
Repubs, just let the rich pay 2% more in taxes, it isn't going to kill us...
It's 2% for crying out loud... anyway, their tax attorneys will find ways around it, so I really don't see the problem.
Ziggy Stardust
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Well ...except those tax attorneys finding ways around it.
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Right, but this isn't addressing that...
That won't be addressed by Obama, he has too many lawyers to return the favor to for their sizeable (seizable) campaign donations.
That's why ACA didn't address tort reform either...
Show me the money!!!
Ziggy Stardust
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Tort reform was loose change though.
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Even I don't agree with that
I wouldn't agree with you on this if the scenario was different. You should never, EVER vote for Washington DC to get more money. Even if you agree with a progressive redistribution scheme (IIRC you do to some extent, I don't) you should know as well as I do that that money will more likely go to warmongering or police-stating than to the poor, so you should oppose ANY attempts to give the government more money, from anyone.
That said, the Republicans are actually being stupid here. They wouldn't be voting for the Bush Tax Cuts to expire. That's already happening. Instead, they'd be voting to extend them for some people. So they should. Better to give ANYONE the money than the government.
I have no confidence the typical state-worshipper on here will see this, but considering all the horrible things we agree are bad that the US government is doing with our money, wouldn't you even rather the rich people keep their money than to have the US government use it the way it is?
Our fees trickle down, especially if we pay our paralegals only what they are worth according to Mobbymath.
As to tort reform - we do need that - there are currently far too many needless hoops put in the way of victims collecting from bad doctors and their insurers.
Ziggy Stardust
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True, so how many times can you address tort reform?
My point really is, financially this is not a big deal. The tax cuts dwarf this. I immediately admit I know little about the ins and outs of tort reform (just that it's small potatoes), and if it's an easy fix, it should be fixed, but you have bigger fish to fry my friend.
Most of them have put you on their ignore lists because you keep accusing them of state-worship while you kiss Ron Paul's feet.
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Oh well, let's just piss away the millions we could save... just a drop in a bucket. We'll lump it in with Obamaphones.
We do have bigger fish to fry, but the smaller fish, you'd think, would cook so much more easily/quickly... yet they just keep sticking around.
I mean, if we can throw anything into a defense appropriation bill and call those who vote against it traitors, let's throw this into one. Problem solved.
Can you specify what tort reform you are talking about that is needed?
A patient has not won in the Texas Supreme Court against a doctor or insurer in over a decade.
A patient has not won in the Texas Supreme Court against a doctor or insurer in over a decade.
