the dune vibe of this post starts with not the WH40 vs SW debate elsewhere but the dictionary . With the ridiculous claims about Crait . See , some planet out of the blue , with a planetary shield , that forces ground combat , because Khan took all the punches nuKirk could throw so nuLuke should get some turbolazer fire and survive as a physical entity . Which was still the thing by November '17 , as it appears apparently . So dictionary people to the fore , to find something for that . Oh-kay , a mining company arriving on a force forsaken planet and gives up and because it's expensive to ship such stuff leaves stuff in place . And they need a planetary shield because of the "titanic" lifeforms . Mind you , not a theatre shield or ship shield , not even some automated guard tower that opens up on beasties with stun or something so that they won't come back or whatever . So titanic that a planetary shield required ... Now , we fans , the nerds and idiots know the one on Hoth was powered by a battlecruiser engine and somehow doubt planetary shields are stuff that one abandons on a whim . Hoth ? Destroyed by General Veers , who now has an AT-AT formation named after him . Remember the trenches ? Makes no sense for titanic lifeforms , and would cave in the preceeding 30 years anyhow . See , the movie proves , contrary to what people would be telling us , and supported by the dictionary . As Leia keeps certain locations to "herself" . That the base was not as dormant as we would be led to believe . Not much of defensive value , but saves money and effort if you dig it first , install structures and cover with dirt . Your communications tunnel between the defensive gun positions that exist . Not enough time ? Just jump in and start firing at the TIE's , better than nothing . Hoth trenches were still covered by all those turret gear ...
oh-kay . We know those ships can come off Hyperspace right in orbit of a planet . But to build up your cherished stern chase , let a bridge crew repeat orders from high up . The Fleet will arrive quite a long way from the base , observe if the FO has arrived first , you know because it makes sense and like every god damned guerilla organization just does not march straight to camp and stuff . Then , when in location , have the FO suddenly arrive , canonically prevent escape and you have your race , the losers to die and so on . Have even technobabble that without an human in the loop , the massive electronic assault by the neospace Nazis might capture the medical frigate and have it ram the Raddus , right ? So , we also have the heroically dying captains , when the dictionary says the Rebel ships are extremely automated to save in crew numbers ... Says something about the human spirit . And to die with knowing that you can't hurt 'em is a much bigger thing than a Kamikaze thing .
and still no need for Hyperspace tracking tech ... The dictionary mentions Navigators . In Dune they were the only ones that could navigate between the stars and so on . Oh-kay , let's say they are extremely gifted as well in the SW universe . They have "calculated" the Rebels are going to Crait , they might have noticed the work party of "during VII" even , a single ship of engineers entering from a point in space that's the optimum for going to 150 planets and only 23 are isolated enough to be suitable for a rebel fleet and so on . Have the first Resurgents arrive , tractors "ablaze" , just in case and let them call in the orc , even . But then the orc is also Dark Side guy , right ? Sheer impossibility of escape , the run to Crait and the instabilty alluded previously stops anyone jumping in front as well . All you need is a tactical screen showing the massive effect on subspace and whatever . Nerds are idiots , they accept such stuff . So , instead of Finn the Janitor who knows the location of every single top secret console in the Neospace Nazi fleet , you have Finn , the kid to be instilled with "love" for the massive power of the said . Like they have such brainy people onboard the Supremacy and they were taken on a tour to see the massive arrays the navigators use . We had them Finn and Rose elsewhere , right ? Finn knows the place , Rose is ready to die to save the fleet just like her sister and we had no issues with finding the hacker , right ? We won't get them attempting to kill the navigators and it would be cheap to claim the arrays were irreplaceable .
why not ? Because Rose is to invent cloaking , because females can ! Not attempting to insult anyone but when one considers the history of stealth , apparently that Russian guy had his book out in 1947 (?) on how waves of stuff are reflected and so on . And me assuming the actress is Vietnamese , the American air arms were extremely confident that they had it working by '72 , massive task forces , jamming , SEAD and a confidence in monetary wealth that they could always outspend anyone on the planet . Then Israelis had it in "full" in 1973 . Of course , it was nothing of the sort a full fledged integrated defence would be doing , but it was extremely penalizing . Israeli problems were basically only solved by an idea that Sedat could not be allowed to "win" and so many Egyptians turned the other cheek to Sharon's crossing . Israeli ground operations then created the gaps in the cover and planes could operate to create more gaps in the cover . That's when America went into researching Stealth in full . And it was neither cheap or quick . One might of course argue Rose the gifted tech uses engine exhaust to be invisible . Say scrambling then . Cloaking in this case only assumes plasma , something the Russians have failed to do in 50 years and Americans are like even more backwards . And of course the "de-cloaking scan" ... See where a brilliant idea takes one . After making impossible to fight a war in that galaxy as the asymetric power , one has to invent cloaking . And because Admiral Party Dress has to show them males , even that goes to the dustbin . Because Neospace Nazis have de-cloaking scan already ; 'cause the Federation invented it .
even if one can sense the brief is to destroy Star Wars ...
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LOLs you guys must hate going to see plays and live theater... "But they didn't show it with special effects! How can we know that it happened if they didn't show it onsceen?!?" LMAO... I dunno, maybe its a millennial thing or something...
Pretty much sums up alot of the anti-TLJ stuff I've been hearing. Sometimes folks just don't like stuff. That's fine, but the fact that you subjectively don't like something doesn't make it dumb or stupid or "bad writing". You just weren't feeling it. The "bad writing" critique just comes off as people trying to make their subjective/emotional dislike into something intellectual and/or objectively correct... which it isn't. In most cases anyway.
Did somebody else make a comparison I missed?
Right?