mintyfreshdeath
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Three pages of hand-wringing and strategic planning based on some screenshots for a game that none of you have played. That's pretty impressive!
Apolyton blog on Ancient and Classical Cultural Policies in Civ5
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Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Uh, you do know we're Civ fans, right? 
mintyfreshdeath
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Uh, you do know we're Civ fans, right?
Yeah I can't wait for Civ V. The more I read about it the more apparant it seems to me that it's going to be a very different game to Civ IV - I have to stop myself from viewing what we know so far of certain game mechanics in the context of Civ IV.
But anyway, can't help but poke fun a little bit
You also have to keep in mind that you need to improve the tile too. With non-stackable workers this takes some time as well. When I played at gamescom I found myself in the position where I COULD have bought a lot of tiles at once had I wanted to, but my city was so small it would not have been able to work the tiles yet anywas, so why bother.
While I agree that buying tiles cheaply all at once can be powerful it's not always the most beneficial thing to do.
Diplomat32
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Obviously, there are many strategies but I think a good standard opening for all civs would be to purchase Tradition-Liberty-Honor in that order. Getting Tradition first will give you that +1 food when your capital will need it the most. Then, getting Liberty will help you build your first settlers. As you start expanding, Honor will give you a combat bonus against the barbarians you inevitably meet. This opening would also have the advantage that you would have 3 policy branches open so you have have a lot more choices for your 4th policy purchase.
stealth_nsk
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My thought is what if you're going to adopt Liberty, you need to adopt it first - it will be much less useful after the initial expansion.
Diplomat32
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True. But your capital has to reach pop 2 before it is allowed to build a settler, so you might as well get Tradition first to have the extra food to boost pop growth in your capital then get Liberty when you are ready to build your first settler. So, I don't think you will be wasting that much expansion before getting Liberty if you purchase as your 2nd policy imo. In fact, I would argue that Tradition is a waste if you don't purchase it first because the extra food for your capital will do the most good when your capital is small.
This is the equivalent of a "slow news day". We likely won't hear much else until the demo is released. Nothing really else to do but speculate at the moment.
This is the equivalent of a "slow news day". We likely won't hear much else until the demo is released. Nothing really else to do but speculate at the moment.
Only we're on the brink of knowing the rest of the social tree. About as exciting as playing the game itself. Can't come soon enough.
stealth_nsk
Deity
You need 15 culture to adopt your first tree. Capital should be already 2 by this time, unless you're playing French.
Pop 2? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that a city has to be pop 4 before it can start building settlers.
Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
I heard pop 4 for settlers, too.
That would make opening Tradition first the best move for quick expansion, so you can hit 4 pop sooner, and by the time you reach that point a French player will likely have enough culture to also open Liberty. I doubt Civ5 will allow for FreeCiv's smallpoxing, but it'll certainly be fun to try.
Diplomat32
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That would make opening Tradition first the best move for quick expansion, so you can hit 4 pop sooner, and by the time you reach that point a French player will likely have enough culture to also open Liberty. I doubt Civ5 will allow for FreeCiv's smallpoxing, but it'll certainly be fun to try.
Yeah, it looks like Tradition is the best first policy in most cases. Of course, militaristic players could ignore Tradition, choose Honor first and go down the Honor tree to develop their early military.
While I'm not sure about the pop 2 thing, I know for a fact that in the gamescom you could build Settlers before reaching pop 4. I'll go out on a limb here and would say you could do it from pop 1 as the Settler was being shown in the production tab right from the start.
Three (four now) pages is nothing. Arioch's thread is up to 84 pages now.
Any thread by that point is off-topic.
(Ok, it might not be so, still I won't look lest I be overwhelmed)
I figure with liberty you can go one of 3 ways:
1) Early expansion: Use the worker/settler bonuses along with the granary bonus to expand your empire quickly.
2) Power up a large empire. Use the +1 culture/production/trade route bonuses to magnify the effect of an already large empire.
3) Both. Start with liberty for expansion, push it further to gain more benefits.
1) Early expansion: Use the worker/settler bonuses along with the granary bonus to expand your empire quickly.
2) Power up a large empire. Use the +1 culture/production/trade route bonuses to magnify the effect of an already large empire.
3) Both. Start with liberty for expansion, push it further to gain more benefits.
mushroomshirt
King
You should check it out, at least for his site link in post 1.
Arioch's page is the best summary of available civ V information I have seen.
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