Sanctions applied generally are no different to a blockade. To be effective, blockades require force. Even had I decided to accept the situation and make it work (i.e. help the people working to undermine me), France and I have territories within spitting distance of Conference powers.
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But at this point the blockades/sanctions have not yet come into effect. Any of the factions you included in your incidents could very well have not included or backed out of the sanctions in their orders. It doesn't make any sense for the UK to use these incidents as their reason for war when these incidents, and the sanctions they may be caused by, haven't even come into effect yet.
Declaring war in opposition to the threat of sanctions is fine, but I just feel breaking the timeline to justify them and isn't in the best of taste.
Declaring war in opposition to the threat of sanctions is fine, but I just feel breaking the timeline to justify them and isn't in the best of taste.
christos200
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OOC: This is like US and USSR allying and declaring war on all other powers, communist and capitalist. 
thomas.berubeg
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And yet again, France and the UK show that, despite thier rhetoric of peace, they are the first to push to the world towards global conflageration, all to further their own petty gains. The Confederacy remains committed towards peace, despite the actions of France and Great Britain, who have refused to even consider the possibility, all the while loudly saying "YOU AREN"T TRYING FOR PEACE" even as they ignore the reasonable and increasingly favorable terms for them being offered.
Korea Yesterday, Siam Today, Your Nation Tomorrow.
Korea Yesterday, Siam Today, Your Nation Tomorrow.
thomas.berubeg
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This isn't true.
Masada's story is hugely meta. I would ask that you allow me to play my nation myself.
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From USA to Britain and France,
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What are your war-goals?
EDIT:
What are your war-goals?
TheLastJacobite
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OOC: The Opium Wars were started RL for similar reasons, but that was China refusing to buy drugs from the British, not the US and Central Europe raising tariffs. And sanctions are very different from a blockade. Sanctions are limiting imports/ raising duties and tariffs from one country into yours; a blockade is using military force to cut off all trade to another nation.
IC: Poland is ashamed that her long time ally of France has sunk to such levels. Is it not enough for Britain and France to be the undisputed masters of the world? Must you use military power to force other nations to rescind a trade treaty? It was just last year that you both ended negotiations between the Ukraine and the Ottoman Empire for the purported good of the Ottoman economy and now you have declared that same nation to be your mutual enemy for attending a trade conference?
How do you think this makes us, your allies, feel? You would throw away thousands and possible millions of lives over so trivial an issue and flat out declare war against any nation that dares question the wisdom of such a war, even those nations with whom you are allies. When will France turn on Poland as your turned on the Confederacy, another nation that owes its very existence to France?
IC: Poland is ashamed that her long time ally of France has sunk to such levels. Is it not enough for Britain and France to be the undisputed masters of the world? Must you use military power to force other nations to rescind a trade treaty? It was just last year that you both ended negotiations between the Ukraine and the Ottoman Empire for the purported good of the Ottoman economy and now you have declared that same nation to be your mutual enemy for attending a trade conference?
How do you think this makes us, your allies, feel? You would throw away thousands and possible millions of lives over so trivial an issue and flat out declare war against any nation that dares question the wisdom of such a war, even those nations with whom you are allies. When will France turn on Poland as your turned on the Confederacy, another nation that owes its very existence to France?
Seon
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EQ, you still have not responded to any of my diplomacy--I cannot write up orders without knowing its results.
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YOU KNOW WHAT FK YOU AND FK NUKA, YOU WERE THE ONES WHO FAILED TO DECLARE WAR UNTIL THE ORDER LOCK, YOU'RE THE ONES GAMING THE SYSTEM TO YOUR ADVANTAGE AND THAT IS LITERAL
, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE RULES SAY. ASTRIA FKING MOBILIZES
Caps
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OOC: Really, did people think Britain was mobilizing because it needed an extra edge to take down Siam? If you're aiming to take down the king, you need to be prepared for retaliation.
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
In light of britains inability to negotiate in good faith, and be cause of its aggressive warmongering and generally internationally irresponsible behavior, the Confederate States of America formally recognizes the Boer Republic.
YOU KNOW WHAT FK YOU AND FK NUKA, YOU WERE THE ONES WHO FAILED TO DECLARE WAR UNTIL THE ORDER LOCK, YOU'RE THE ONES GAMING THE SYSTEM TO YOUR ADVANTAGE AND THAT IS LITERAL
ASTRIA FKING MOBILIZES
Caps
I had reached out to you twice to negotiate but you refused completely. What did you think would happen?
Also, please keep in mind that the barring of goods from one nation is generally an extremely hostile act.
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France notes the Boer Republic announcement by the Confederacy as yet another amusing anecdote of continued opinon reversals from the Confederate diplomatic corps. We hope they're not charging too much for overtime.
France once again notes that this entire time it was the UNITED STATES AND OTHERS who made a Southeast Asian nation into a global issue. Had the world said nothing, the war would be quick, Siam would remain independent, and we would leave. But instead, you and your cronies embarked on this ridiculous idea of international sanctions. We refused to negotiate because we refused to be humiliated, which is all that the terms we saw. All the Americans would offer is "Status Quo", a situation unacceptable to France.
We are displeased to see Poland's condemnation. We are fighting though, not just to rescind a trade treaty. We are fighting to preserve human civilization and global stability. We will not let the United States and its campaign of anarchy succeed. We will stop the United States from destabilizing this world, and we will intervene as necessary. As a counterpoint, we show Korea, a nation that gained peace by the efforts of France, instead of provoking a major war.
France is a force for peace in this world. Our former allies turned traitor, the Confederate States of America, sanctioned France due to French efforts for peace, nothing more. We hope to continue trading relations and our alliance with Poland, and hope that this dispute, however unfortunate, can be put behind us.
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Hornet
You know what, I REALLY don't need this additional fking stress right now, and I really don't want to be ridiculed for this . I'm sorry ft Lauderdale guys, but I can't handle this game right now.
I'm quitting.
See you all in hell
. I'm sorry ft Lauderdale guys, but I can't handle this game right now. I'm quitting.
See you all in hell
