Ask a Dutchman!

[gay_Aleks]

What do the Dutch think of the Caribbean islands they own?

 

[Tahuti]

What do the Dutch think of the Caribbean islands they own?

Most Dutch people think of it as a fun coincidence that the Dutch state has them. Though I do believe Geert Wilders speaks for a many when he said 'it was corrupt nest of thieves' and thus wanted to sell the islands (I'm sure the Bolivarian republic of Venezuela is interested! ). And I know instances of Dutch people who actually move there, though wouldn't know why the hell you would want to move there, weather aside.

That being said, indiginous inhabitants - known as 'Antillians' - who migrate to the Netherlands proper have a reputation for extreme amounts of crime and criminal behavior in general. My personal experiences with them have been mostly negative as well. However, since they are technically born in the Netherlands, you can't really deport them, even though every once in the while some populist toad promises to deport them out of the Netherlands.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Also, not sure whether this has been asked before, but...

Is Netherlands still sinking or you've managed to fix that, too?

 

[Tahuti]

Also, not sure whether this has been asked before, but...

Is Netherlands still sinking or you've managed to fix that, too?

Yes and no. Water levels are rising, so yes, we are technically sinking - as is your beloved Bulgaria, though admittedly, we are in a more precarious situation because a lot of our land is below sea level. However, we got a lot of tricks to deal with that whenever that rises to intolerable levels.

Though maybe it won't affect me, since I have been making plans to move to Belgium the Southern Netherlands.

 

[Domen]

That being said, indiginous inhabitants

Indigenous inhabitants in the Caribbean islands - really ???

There are no any indigenous inhabitants there. They got exterminated.

A small number managed to survive only on one island - Dominica:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carib_Territory

Caribs of Dominica survived because they nevere surrendered. They killed every White who entered their land. Last battle against them was in 1930 !!!

There are also Garifuna people (finally defeated in 1796), but they are Zambos (descendants of fugitive Black slaves mixed with Caribs):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garifuna_people

 

[gay_Aleks]

More like ex-colonists, I guess. Maybe a mix with the natives/slaves?

 

[Domen]

There is probably very little of native ancestry in the Caribbean islands. Almost all of Island Caribs got completely exterminated.

Garifuna people are - IIRC - something like 60% Black African and 40% Carib (in terms of genetic ancestry).

Caribs of Dominica are the only fully Island Carib people who survive until this day.

I guess mixing with Black slaves (those who escaped / freed themselves) gave such "hybrid Caribs" resistance to European diseases.

More like ex-colonists, I guess.

I suppose Kaiserguard was talking about descendants of Black Africans and White pirates & outlaws who settled there.

Maybe they also have some native ancestry but surely minority.

 

[Agent327]

In Surinam African slaves regularly escaped into the jungle and even raided plantations. Apart from that, I don't think - apart from the South African Boers - Dutchmen ever had any qualms about mixed marriages or intercourse in general.

Most of the major Dutch media unfoundedly implied there was deliberate malice

I would like to see some sources for that.

Fortunately, I haven't seen Anti-Russia(n) sentiment popularly flare up despite of that. The Dutch government did attempt to send commandos to Eastern Ukraine

Again, source missing.

There was some grumbling over sanctions among agrarian produce exporters.

Most Dutch people think of it as a fun coincidence that the Dutch state has them. Though I do believe Geert Wilders speaks for a many when he said 'it was corrupt nest of thieves' and thus wanted to sell the islands (I'm sure the Bolivarian republic of Venezuela is interested! ). And I know instances of Dutch people who actually move there, though wouldn't know why the hell you would want to move there, weather aside.

Perhaps try a holiday there some time. I would say that most Dutch don't give the Antilles much thought.

That being said, indiginous inhabitants - known as 'Antillians' - who migrate to the Netherlands proper have a reputation for extreme amounts of crime and criminal behavior in general.

No, they don't.

My personal experiences with them have been mostly negative as well. However, since they are technically born in the Netherlands, you can't really deport them, even though every once in the while some populist toad promises to deport them out of the Netherlands.

Never heard of this either. The Dutch Antilles are a part of the kingdom of the Netherlands. After Surinam gained independance, there was some talk about this, but I don't believe anyone is in favour of this in recent years. The Antilles primary economic function as holiday resorts seems to suit both parties fine. As per personal experience, I had a youth friend who lived there for years; no mention ever of Antillians as being extremely criminal.

I would say that certain people think of Antillians as being criminals, just as certain people think of Moroccans as being criminals. Neither line of thought makes this true, however. The fact that there are Antillian and Moroccan criminals is simply being highlighted; that should not reflect on Antillian or Moroccan Dutchmen in general, however. Just my opinion, of course.

Also, not sure whether this has been asked before, but...

Is Netherlands still sinking or you've managed to fix that, too?

Not as fast as Venice, I imagine. But measures to ensure dikes will hold are being worked on, as Kaiserguard implied.

 

[Domen]

apart from the South African Boers - Dutchmen ever had any qualms about mixed marriages or intercourse in general.

Cape Coloureds are descendants of Dutchmen / Boers and Bushmen, Bantu and other groups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Coloureds

Cape Coloureds have an ancestry consisting of the following ethnic groups:[2]

Khoisan: (32-43%)
Bantu-speaking Africans: (20-36%)
Ethnic groups in Europe: (21-28%)
Asian peoples: (9-11%)

But some of their sub-groups are specifically descendants of Dutchmen and Bushmen (Khoisan):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griqua_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baster

http://www.cyclopaedia.info/wiki/Rehoboth-Bastaards

 

[Agent327]

I know. The Boers conveniently ignored their intermixing when they instituted their infamous apartheid regime.

 

[Tahuti]

I suppose Kaiserguard was talking about descendants of Black Africans and White pirates & outlaws who settled there.

Maybe they also have some native ancestry but surely minority.

I do. And yes they definitely have native ancestry as well. Given their distinctive appearance relative to other darker skinned people, they almost certainly have to.

No, they don't.

I only said they have a reputation for such behavior, not that all Antilleans by unchangable logic are that way.

Never heard of this either.

Pim Fortuyn actually proposed this - though he also was a complete idiot.

 

[Domen]

How were Coloureds treated during the apartheid?

 

[Takhisis]

Yes and no. Water levels are rising, so yes, we are technically sinking - as is your beloved Bulgaria, though admittedly, we are in a more precarious situation because a lot of our land is below sea level. However, we got a lot of tricks to deal with that whenever that rises to intolerable levels.

Hmmmm. You'll steal back the bicycles from the Germans and use them to reinforce the levees, I presume.

Though maybe it won't affect me, since I have been making plans to move to Belgium the Southern Netherlands.

Is your surname 'de Alba' by any chance?

 

[Tahuti]

Hmmmm. You'll steal back the bicycles from the Germans and use them to reinforce the levees, I presume.

No, but honestly, that's a good one!

Is your surname 'de Alba' by any chance?

By some weird coincidence, my surname sounds Hebrew, so it is anything but de Alba.