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[Commie #4522]

When will the Muslim societies embrace liberalism and then Communism, or at least socialism and secularlism?

 

[Turner]

Dude, that girl is weird for getting angry at you. I've eaten Halal food my entire life, and I've never once been so obnoxious to impose myself on someone else. If I go somewhere and they are serving non-Halal food, then I make up excuses like "oh I'm just not hungry" or "I just ate" because I do not want the other person to feel bad.

Didn't want to threadjack the other thread, so I'll ask here.

So you wouldn't eat it at all? Would it be a sin (or the muslim equivalent) if you did eat it to be polite? Or would that be something that could be easily forgiven?

 

[Red Door]

When will the Muslim societies embrace liberalism and then Communism, or at least socialism and secularlism?

Dude, communism is dead. Grow up.

 

[Rossiya]

Dude, communism is dead. Grow up.

Communism was a fashion, like a music genre. It will crop up again in a few hundred years or so.

 

[Stylesjl]

When will the Muslim societies embrace liberalism and then Communism, or at least socialism and secularlism?

On June 15th 2009

Edit: In other words how is he supposed to know? In fact if you read earlier he considers Communism to be quite odious (you know the whole religous suppression thing)

 

[Stylesjl]

Dude, communism is dead. Grow up.

Communism is mortally wounded, something needs to put it out of it's misery

 

[Commie #4522]

Communism is mortally wounded, something needs to put it out of it's misery

How can something that hasn't been manifested been mortally wounded? Communism is GOAL that hasn't been reached yet, only socialism has been. When I see more and more socialist programs being enacted in Europe I see more and more steps being taken towards Communism. Communism is the ideal that socialism strives to achieve.

 

[Sidhe]

How can something that hasn't been manifested been mortally wounded? Communism is an IDEA that hasn't been implemented yet, only socialism has been. When I see more and more socialist programs being enacted in Europe I see more and more steps being taken towards Communism. Communism is the ideal that socialism strives to achieve.

It has been implemented in all sorts of ways, but it does not work, human society is not ready for it, we are greedy, aquisitive and pointlessly selfish? As an ideal it's spotless, but human beings are scum in general, get used to it. And what rises to the top of the barrel? Scum.

 

[Commie #4522]

It has been implemented in all sorts of ways, but it does not work, human society is not ready for it, we are greedy, aquisitive and pointlessly selfish? As an ideal it's spotless, but human beings are scum in general, get used to it.

Wrong, only socialism has. And I think it's doing quite well in your country.

 

[Sidhe]

Wrong, only socialism has. And I think it's doing quite well in your country.

I agree socialism is different from communism though, communism as an ideology is pointless. Because people are pointlessly self serving. I'm ok with it I've got used to the scum out there, I try and avoid them, but they are all around, screwing up society, I suggest you get used to them, their pointless machinations are all you can expect from morons. Just count yourself a better person and hope you die with some dignity, you can be sure they wont.

 

[Stylesjl]

How can something that hasn't been manifested been mortally wounded? Communism is GOAL that hasn't been reached yet, only socialism has been. When I see more and more socialist programs being enacted in Europe I see more and more steps being taken towards Communism. Communism is the ideal that socialism strives to achieve.

And i am glad it died before it could be "Truly" implemented. Communism refuses to acknowledge human nature, it is an unrealistic pipe dream. So the closest thing ends up being even worse then the evils of capitalism

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Given that every attempt to implement "true" communism has ended miserably, doesn't that rather suggest that it is impossible to implement?

OK, enough hijacking. OK, this goes for Salah ad-Din or if we didn't scare her off, incantrix: how do you feel about the protests against the first Muslim in the US Congress using a Qur'an to reenact his swearing-in ceremony? The dumbest thing ever, or just the second dumbest?

 

[El_Machinae]

The dumbest thing ever, or just the second dumbest?

Glorious! Talk about a leading question!

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I just happened to be reading about the "controversy" today, and it floored me. I mean, come on people.

 

[Red Door]

Do you want to topple all Western governments? Because according to Katheryn, you do.

 

[ironduck]

But what do you mean by follow "that Shariah"? I very much do believe in following the Shariah, which refers to the Divine Law, i.e. Islamic Law. The Shariah can be further sub-divided: laws that apply universally and those laws that apply to an Islamic government only.

Currently, I follow the laws that apply universally. When an Islamic revolution occurs in a Muslim majority country, then Shariah would be implemented in full. Basically, Shariah can only be practised on a global level if there is an Islamic Caliph in power. Therefore, in the absence of a Caliph, it is impossible to "implement" Shariah on others. However, the Shariah is still binding on yourself. I am instructed to follow the Islamic Laws that apply to myself, and the reward (and any punishment) will be meted out on the Day of Judgment.

For example, the punishment for fornication in Islam is whipping. However, Islamically this Hadd (divine punishment) can only be carried out by an Islamic government under the rule of a Caliph. Vigilante justice in Islam is compeletly Haram (forbidden), and in fact it would be a *greater* crime than the initial sin itself. For example, for some vigilante to whip a fornicator would be considered assault and heresy, and strictly Haram (forbidden). Nonetheless, I personally cannot engage in fornication because this would be a violation of the Shariah, and I will be taken into account on the Day of Judgment.

So if you would like to see an islamic state with full sharia, does this mean that you believe that the punishment for 'fornication' (whatever you define that as?) should be whipping? Do you believe people should be stoned for adultery? Have their hand cut off for stealing?

In any case, the Shariah is more than a set of punishments, lol. In fact, the Hadd (punishments) are just a very small segment, and in fact the bulk of the Shariah is designed to implement social justice, welfare, and relief to the poor, needy, and weak. However, these elements of the Shariah do not appeal to Western media as they do not garner as good a reaction as saying "oh my gosh, you guys chop hands!"

Of course. I have no problem with people wanting to help others who wish to be helped. I do however have a problem with barbaric violence. So when people say they are in favour of horrible laws I must protest.

Just so you know, the Shariah is what commands me to be kind-hearted and soft with non-Muslims.

Do you need a divine command to treat non-muslims properly? Shouldn't it be obvious that all people should be treated equally and respectfully regardless of their religious beliefs?

 

[Xanikk999]

Do you wear a burka or one of those headscarves that muslim women wear?

 

[JonnyB]

Hi Johnny.

This is actually based on a myth, and I don't blame you for thinking this since it is such an oft-repeated myth. I will, Allah Willing, clarify this issue without being too verbose.

We believe that when Prophet Adam (as) greeted Eve (as), he said to her: "Al-Salaam Alaykum" which translates to "Peace be upon you."

To which Eve (as) responded: "Wa Alaykum Al-Salaam" which translates to "And upon you be peace also."

And this is the reason this greeting (and response) is used by Muslims.
......
Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (ra) said:

"If a non-Muslim greets a Muslim in a clear manner, and says, 'Al-Salaamu Alaykum (peace be upon you),' then one should say, 'Wa ‘alayka al-salaam' (and upon you be peace).”

(edited for space)

I just want to say Thank you for the time and effort you've put into answering the questions posted by myself and others. Your response to my last question was far more detailed than I would have expected.
Now I just have to work on the pronunciation of those phrases so I don't accidentally say something else.

 

[aneeshm]

Three more questions (I'll write a detailed reply to your previous post later, when I have the time and the energy):

Do you support the right of a Muslim man to marry four wives?

Do you support his right to divorce them by saying the word "talaq" thrice, i.e., by using the triple divorce?

Do you support the institution of temporary marriage (muta)?

 

[MjM]

How does it feel to be an enemy of armerica?