Assyria discussion

Thebes wasn't the capital for Ramses II, Athens wasn't the capital for Alexander, D.C. wasn't the capital for George Washington, etc.

Doesn't mean I particularly agree with those decisions either ;)

I suppose I just like a bit of historical accuracy - even if this is a game.
 
Doesn't mean I particularly agree with those decisions either ;)

I suppose I just like a bit of historical accuracy - even if this is a game.

Civilization isn't supposed to be historical accurate in the first place...
 
Civilization isn't supposed to be historical accurate in the first place...

No I understand that but would it really do that much harm if it was?

Not that it detracts from the game in any way at all but still.
 
If anything, they're trying to be more accurate and represent all of ancient Assyria instead of just Ashurbanipal's Assyria.
 
No I understand that but would it really do that much harm if it was?

Not that it detracts from the game in any way at all but still.

It would be a completely different game, actually. Civilization is all about 'rewriting history', so historical accuracy is kept to a minimum. But that's a whole different discussion.:)
 
It would be a completely different game, actually. Civilization is all about 'rewriting history', so historical accuracy is kept to a minimum. But that's a whole different discussion.:)

Oh my - now that is an excellent point. I was going to suggest that the leader is less important than the nation/people and therefore it would make sense to select the most historically significant capital. But I like this more.
 
Do we really need Persia 2.0?

Not Persia 2.0. The Assyrian civilization originated far to the west of Persia. In addition, the Assyrians were a Semitic culture, like Sumer and Babylon. Persia was Indo-European. A more reasonable objection might be, "Do we really need Babylon 2.0?
 
I think the Assyria is designed to be the diametric opposite of Babylon. Babylon is defensive and scientific where as Assyria is offensive and steals the fruits of scientific research.
 
But it matches with the whole "Library of Nivenah" thing, the Royal Library held great works, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh. Thats where I think it comes in...
Well, maybe the library can slot a stolen great work from a captured civ. :)
 
That leads to the question of whether you can steal Great Works. Do they come with the city like Wonders do? Especially since culture buildings are destroyed when you take over a city.
 
Frankly I'm a little tired to dig up the source, but yes I do believe it's been confirmed that one captures another civilization's great works upon taking the host city.
 
Since you can rename your capital to anything that you like, it's hard to imagine a more pointless complaint than the choice of the name of the capital.

But I can hardly rename AI capitals or MP capitals. I do realise it is an incredibly insignificant complaint and one that wont even begin to prevent me from playing as them (if that UA is correct) but it just bothers me a tiny bit. I realise its a bit silly but i cannot help it.
 
Frankly I'm a little tired to dig up the source, but yes I do believe it's been confirmed that one captures another civilization's great works upon taking the host city.
I also recall this being mentioned.

But I can hardly rename AI capitals or MP capitals. I do realise it is an incredibly insignificant complaint and one that wont even begin to prevent me from playing as them (if that UA is correct) but it just bothers me a tiny bit. I realise its a bit silly but i cannot help it.
If it bothers you that much, you could change the values in the XML files.
 
Then don't forget to pull your priceless paintings out of your museums when the shells start falling.
 
Why on earth is Nineveh not the capital?!?!?! This is an outrage! I exaggerate but it just seems wrong historically to make (likely) Assur the capital if Ash is the ruler. Oh well.

Assur was the first capital, though. It was a capital for quite a large period of their history. They kept moving it around for strategic reasons and Nineveh ended up being the capital, but both are completely legitimate.

Also, there's more to Assyria than Ashurbanipal. This is civilization, not "time when some guy was ruling a nation."
 
It's funny though since they decided to name the unique ability "Treasures of Nineveh".

It's also realistic to be able to loot Great Works, though it's probably a hassle to balance gameplay wise, no? We'll see. I just ask whether we will be able to teleport the Great Works out of the city or if it takes time/open road to do that. Then again, you should never lose a city anyways if you want to win the game, especially one so developed that it has Great Works in it...
 
Question: Is Assur the same as Ashur, the city from the Babylonian list?
 
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