Atheism as a religion

Dida

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Atheism should be added as a religion, or at least, you cannot spread atheism, but you can set it as the state religion. In countries like soviet union, or China, I bet their state religion is atheism.
 
Dida said:
Atheism should be added as a religion, or at least, you cannot spread atheism, but you can set it as the state religion. In countries like soviet union, or China, I bet their state religion is atheism.
Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism is a consequence of the raise of individualism. Instead of adding atheism as a religion, we should add individualism as a game concept. The more a society is individualist, the less religion will be influent in the society.

About communist states. It's not atheism which should be a state religion, it's all religions which should be banned. Furthermore, if there's something which has a religious aspect, it would be communism in itself, not atheism.
 
Atheism cannot be a religion, because religion is what atheists are vehemently opposed to.
 
Some atheists however are so fanatic that they sound fundamentalistic.
Anyway, it might be a good idea for a modification. It should be possible to make an atheism spreading unit (looking like a professor or something) and to have the Darwin's Evolution Theory wonder as a religious capital.
 
SonicX said:
Some atheists however are so fanatic that they sound fundamentalistic.
Anyway, it might be a good idea for a modification. It should be possible to make an atheism spreading unit (looking like a professor or something) and to have the Darwin's Evolution Theory wonder as a religious capital.

I agreee with the first point

BUT...
Theroy of Evolution wouldnt be good for atheism because it promotes evolution which is belived by more then just athiest a more fitting thing would be just to have it double your odds of getting a scientific great leader.
 
Wait for a second, just because you denounce creationism doesn't mean you are automatically labelled "an atheist"
 
This is the 200 thousdnth thread on this! Please people stop making these threads!

Anyway, Atheism is not a religon, if you say it is then Bald is a hair color.

Atheism is not a religon!
 
Japanrocks12 said:
Wait for a second, just because you denounce creationism doesn't mean you are automatically labelled "an atheist"
It was the first, and most self-evident (read : stereotypical) example I could find.
Oh well, someone will have mad an atheist mod the week the game is released, so everyone asking for it will be happy then.
 
this is one of thoes questions like is being bald a hair style. Is not beliving in religion a religion it self? I think if your atheist your country should be open to all religons as it does not firmly belive in any god/s.
 
Sid said the default religion in the game "Paganism" means that your nation gets no religious bonuses and can not spread religion. This sounds a lot like Atheism by a different name.
 
a·the·ism Audio pronunciation of "atheism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-zm)
n.

1.
1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
2. Godlessness; immorality.

By the look of the first two definitions, it seems as if atheism qualifies as a religion, at least as much as confucianism. The only thing that might be considered as not a religion would be considered might be agnosticism, which is absolute uncertainty of anything. Remember, aetheism is a disbelief, which is in fact a belief in itself.
 
Maybe instead of a country having a religion it should have a "religious stance". This would alow you to declare athiesm as your "religious stance".

Also,
Wait for a second, just because you denounce creationism doesn't mean you are automatically labelled "an atheist"
I agree!

AND,
Some atheists however are so fanatic that they sound fundamentalistic.
Just to clarify, SOME atheists...

AND,
Sid said the default religion in the game "Paganism" means that your nation gets no religious bonuses and can not spread religion.
If you've lived near Sedona, AZ you'd probably feel different.

Well that's it.
 
warpstorm said:
Sid said the default religion in the game "Paganism" means that your nation gets no religious bonuses and can not spread religion. This sounds a lot like Atheism by a different name.
Paganism means believing in crap. Every people believing in a religion have considered people believing in other religions as crap. It has nothing to do with not believing in God... it's about not believing in the same God as "we" do (and of course "our" God is the real one).

Atheism should definitly not be considered as a religion. Considering it is a religion is simply a distortion made by people believing in God in order to disqualify it.
 
This would all be much simpler if we defined "atheist" and "religion". Than we could easily deduce whether it fell into that category. Let's consider dictionary.com's definition of religion

re·li·gion Audio pronunciation of "religion" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

1.
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

If we consider definition 1., confucianism would not qualify. Therefor we are forced to go with definition 3, in which atheism or belief in lack of deities, would qualify as a religion. But the dictionary is often not the most efficacious tool for discussion on a message board, so perhaps you could give me your definitions.
 
vbraun said:
This is the 200 thousdnth thread on this! Please people stop making these threads!

Anyway, Atheism is not a religon, if you say it is then Bald is a hair color.

Atheism is not a religon!

here here. :goodjob:

just a note:

Question: I am a big fan of all of your games. I have been playing Civilization since the first one was released and I can not wait for Civilization IV. I do have a question about Civilization IV as it relates to religion. Can your government have no state religion? If so can they influence border nations with their secular beliefs?
Sid Hello Orie! Yes, the default is Paganism, which means there is no organized religion. At the other end of the spectrum is Free Religion and that offers tolerance of all religions. It's not possible to spread no religion where there is already religion. It's a play mechanic, but I am pretty sure it holds up that way in history as well.

http://www.firaxis.com/community/asksid.php

origionally bought up by civrules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2995920&postcount=907
 
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