Huang
Chieftain
To put it bluntly: No.
I can see why one would be though, but I don't like to concern myself with such unearthly matters.
I can see why one would be though, but I don't like to concern myself with such unearthly matters.
Atheist, Are'nt you scared?
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I wish there was a heaven and guranteed mortality and whatnot... But I'd just be lying to myself if I believed in it. Like making myself believe I have a never ending chocolate bar in my desk just because that sounds nicer than not having a neverending chocolate bar in my desk. It's absurd.
Am I afraid of death? You betcha. When I die, I won't get to see what comes next, and that's the most heartbreaking part of it. Am I afraid of the afterlife? Oblivion doesn't sound too great, but I won't be around to complain.
Am I afraid of death? You betcha. When I die, I won't get to see what comes next, and that's the most heartbreaking part of it. Am I afraid of the afterlife? Oblivion doesn't sound too great, but I won't be around to complain.
Weak atheist.
Afraid of dying? Of course.
Afraid of the afterlife? Yeah, a little. I live in a strongly conservative Christian area and I'm in a strongly Christian, though not quite as conservative, family, and sometimes all the fire and brimstone gets to me--I'm not completely over my Christian past.
Afraid of dying? Of course.
Afraid of the afterlife? Yeah, a little. I live in a strongly conservative Christian area and I'm in a strongly Christian, though not quite as conservative, family, and sometimes all the fire and brimstone gets to me--I'm not completely over my Christian past.
Digging in the earlier pages of the thread, I found this post...
People who make this argument miss the point. When people say that God "sends people to hell," they don't necessarily (and, I would suggest, probably don't) think that God is responsible for the actions of those who are destined for hell. Rather, they say the He "sends people to hell" in the sense that he has
1) Set the conduct that is worthy of punishment, and
2) Set that punishment as hell.
It's akin to saying that prisoners send themselves to prison; though they are responsible for their actions, the legal system decides that the actions that they committed are reprehensible and sets prison as the punishment. Thus, the legal system (and God, if the analogy holds) is responsible for the punishment, and is accountable for the propriety of the punishment relative to the crimes committed.
cgannon64 said:
People who make this argument miss the point. When people say that God "sends people to hell," they don't necessarily (and, I would suggest, probably don't) think that God is responsible for the actions of those who are destined for hell. Rather, they say the He "sends people to hell" in the sense that he has
1) Set the conduct that is worthy of punishment, and
2) Set that punishment as hell.
It's akin to saying that prisoners send themselves to prison; though they are responsible for their actions, the legal system decides that the actions that they committed are reprehensible and sets prison as the punishment. Thus, the legal system (and God, if the analogy holds) is responsible for the punishment, and is accountable for the propriety of the punishment relative to the crimes committed.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Yes, but that is irrelevant. Citizens are aware of the consequences of a criminal action. They commit it with full knowledge of what will happen to them if caught. The state does not compel anyone to go to jail without a full advance notice of how they could avoid it.shortguy said:
Panda
Metal head
Not scared. I have accepted that, at some point I have to die. And I see no point of running around like a headless chicken tithing to faiths I can't believe in.
blackheart
unenlightened
cgannon64 said:
It's a shame that where you end up in an afterlife isn't dictated by concrete terms; it is all based on speculation and fears.
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
cgannon64 said:
Ironically, that it is irrelevant is irrelevant. The simple fact that they know and could avoid it does not mean they send themselves there. The state does it. You can't wriggle around that fact. Yes, they are commiting the crimes and playing a part in their, but nonetheless they are not actively choosing to go to jail (usually), while the state is. Your final sentence says it all. That you have to qualify the clause "The state does not compel anyone to go to jail" with the word "without" fully admits that the state does, in fact, send them there.
Y'all know the El_Mac answer ... "conquer involuntary death". Nobody gets hurt, and anybody can benefit.
accept christ as your savior.. learn to love god and you will live with his light forever. Heaven isnt even so much a place as it is being in god's presence...
Just read the good book once guys.. I need to play civ when Im in heaven and if you guys arent there itd be horrible! lol
Just read the good book once guys.. I need to play civ when Im in heaven and if you guys arent there itd be horrible! lol
Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
I'm agnostic too, but I'm afraid to die, but at the sime time curious what comes next.Rhymes said:
Well, If I could achive immortality or extremely long life, I would chose that of course. However, if the price for that immortality or extremly long life was suffering a lot of maladies, etc. I would chose death
toh6wy
Emperor
TheeLord said:
Reading the Bible would do nothing to convince me to change my life to conform to the ideals of something that's pure speculation and only has its popularity going for it.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
Random poser that just crossed my mind.
The thread started out asking us atheists if we're scared.
Suddenly I'm wondering: in a world with a whole lot of different religions and Bibles--aren't you theists scared of choosing the wrong one....?
The thread started out asking us atheists if we're scared.
Suddenly I'm wondering: in a world with a whole lot of different religions and Bibles--aren't you theists scared of choosing the wrong one....?
Kayak
Partisan
Take a look at some of the intermidable religious debate threads round here before feel the need to start another one with comments like that.TheeLord said:
blackheart
unenlightened
TheeLord said:accept christ as your savior.. learn to love god and you will live with his light forever. Heaven isnt even so much a place as it is being in god's presence...
Just read the good book once guys.. I need to play civ when Im in heaven and if you guys arent there itd be horrible! lol
If it were only that simple
Actually, the answer is really that simple for everyone ... it's just that the answer is DIFFERENT for everyone!
I say, if you fear (or dislike) death, help cure aging. It's the only logical choice.
I say, if you fear (or dislike) death, help cure aging. It's the only logical choice.
TheeLord said:accept christ as your savior.. learn to love god and you will live with his light forever. Heaven isnt even so much a place as it is being in god's presence...
Just read the good book once guys.. I need to play civ when Im in heaven and if you guys arent there itd be horrible! lol
Sorry i don't like to beleive in the adult santa claus (god)
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