Austria

[The_J]

See here or here please.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Perhaps the acquired City State does not vote at the UN.

It probably does, but that is one of the things that they could do. After that, it may not be so great for a diplomatic victory. It could be more about securing regular access to the resources than about UN votes.

I can't recall at the moment, but can't you "liberate" a capitol or city-state city even after you've held it for a while or is it just the turn when you capture it from a different enemy? Anyway, if so, then you can acquire a bunch of city-states peacefully then liberate them the turn before a UN vote and they would all vote for you. It's been a while since I've messed around with that particular mechanic.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I think it can only be liberated the turn you take the city.

 

[Haig]

When thinking about Vienna coffe houses, they were meeting places and inspirations for many artists so a culture bonus is likely, but coffee houses in history were also a place for talks about politics and some rulers were afraid that they would cause dangerous political plots too.

Do you think it's possible there's some sort of espionage/intelligence bonus to them, along with culture ?

 

[SHaW1986]

just a thought, if anyone was going to have a coffee shop shouldnt it be the dutch?

 

[Liex]

If it was a Coffee shop, sure.

 

[fuzzatron717]

my guess for coffee shop maybe +3 culture +2 gold 2+ food and 1 great artist slot that's my guess for the coffee shop it would be hilarious if I got right but not likely.

 

[Montov]

and is it's great but but it says it the city-state has to be ally and give gold. and the gold is probably like 1500

Probably depends on population of the CS. Something like 100 gold per pop.

Perhaps the acquired City State does not vote at the UN.

It probably does, but that is one of the things that they could do. After that, it may not be so great for a diplomatic victory. It could be more about securing regular access to the resources than about UN votes.

When you puppet or annex a CS, it does not vote for you for Diplomatic Victory.

The ability to acquire a CS is fun, and really strong to use to establish a beach head on a remote Island where you can purchase your Aircraft. But besides that, I never conquer CS because being allies is usually stronger.

 

[Raiki]

Here's a thought: Do city-states still build national wonders? I know they used to build the NC all the time, which was why Scholasticism was the go-to social policy a year ago the same way Liberty is now.

I know that the NC problem was fixed in a patch, but do they still build things like the Ironworks? If so, what happens when you annex one?

 

[Beefie]

I was thinking the coffee shop might replace the Garden, keep its great people bonus (maybe increase it?), remove the river requirement and add a small amount of culture or gold

 

[Haig]

I was thinking the coffee shop might replace the Garden, keep its great people bonus (maybe increase it?), remove the river requirement and add a small amount of culture or gold

A very good idea there!

 

[JeanBaptiste]

It would be anachronistic to have coffee houses replacing gardens in the Medieval era, especially for a European civ like Austria. Coffee didn't come to a Renaissance Europe until the discovery of the New World in the late 15th century.

An opera house replacement would seem slightly strange as well in regards to Austrias impact on opera music, especially W.A Mozart.

Maybe a theatre or museum replacement?

If theatre replacement, my guess : 2+culture, maintenance free. If museum: 2+happiness, maintenance free. On top of the normal bonuses of course

 

[MaximusK]

It would be anachronistic to have coffee houses replacing gardens in the Medieval era, especially for a European civ like Austria. Coffee didn't come to a Renaissance Europe until the discovery of the New World in the late 15th century.

Your right about the time period but coffee was actually brought to the New World. It's African.

 

[JeanBaptiste]

Your right about the time period but coffee was actually brought to the New World. It's African.

Yes you're right. Got it mixed up with tabacco and cacao.

 

[Cicero63]

Your right about the time period but coffee was actually brought to the New World. It's African.

Yeah and the Ottomans are the ones who introduced it to Europe. I believe that is a civilopedia factoid.

 

[KillingMeSoftly]

Perhaps Coffee Houses are a Theatre replacement, giving bonus culture. After all, you have to research Printing Press to build Theatres. And we know how well reading the paper goes hand-in-hand with a cup of coffee.

Would make Austria strong for Diplomatic and Culture games, peaceful or otherwise. Between Royal Marriages and Coffee Houses, seems perfect to me!

I'm interested in seeing how the Hussar will be distinguished from the Cossack, as its likely the Hussar will be a Cavalry replacement. What will its uniqueness be?

 

[Nyanko]

I liked the idea posted earlier of the Hussar being a horse archer type character, jump in and skirmish then flee again, its sort of what Hussar's did

 

[KillingMeSoftly]

I liked the idea posted earlier of the Hussar being a horse archer type character, jump in and skirmish then flee again, its sort of what Hussar's did

1-hex Ranged attack with the ability to move afterward could be fun. Mini-keshiks!

Perhaps also having the ability to melee attack. That would be truly unique.

 

[Ulthwithian]

Mm. I do think that that the Coffeehouse replaces the Gardens, as they would seem to be GP-centric. A +Culture/Happiness no-requirement Garden would be very powerful. (Not that I am suggesting it for power reasons.)

And as far as the anachronism goes, it's no more anachronistic than having, say, an Austrian 'civilization' in 4000 BC. (IOW, I think this is a fairly specious argument.)

 

[fuzzatron717]

The coffee houses can't replace any current building it just doesn't fit it probably replaces a new building that there installing. Like garden?! Earlier as said coffee did not appear until renaissance era. Second Theatre how do you get coffee house out of a theatre or opera house. third Opera house's are too important to be replaced mozart, beethoven etc.