Autumn 2017 Patch General Discussion

[Starwars]

The blur on my screen is barely noticeable. Maybe I just have bad eyes and don't notice it much but could be something wonky going on with different computer configurations.

Started up a few games with Indonesia to check things out. Getting a pantheon as them can be sooo nice and quick, love that. Getting a religion is a mixed bag as expected. Playing on Emperor, one game I actually got the first religion though I did build the shrine and then ran two projects. Not optimal but I don't think there was anyone even competing for it in that game, their prophet points were just getting started when I got the religion. On another game, I got the last one. Though that one was a *really* bad start with plenty desert tiles and pretty bad food and production so it took a long time to get the Holy Site up. Milage will vary definitely.

I really like the religion lens. It feels very clear and I can see myself playing some more religious games now because it is much easier to tell how cities are being affected. And that clarity will make it just more fun I think.

No huge problems for me so far regarding bugs. I ran into new one where the voiceover for a leader screen seems to get "interrupted" (stops playing right away) by Sean Bean's tech quote. I guess when you finish a tech and a leader contacts you on the same turn. Not a biggie.

Haven't run into any naval warfare so far but there seems to be more ships sailing around at least.

Not a fan of diplomacy UI unfortunately and the great person screen still needs to be scrolled back and forth.

 

[Ferocitus]

Do you like it so far? Maybe my monitor needs its settings changed. It's a good monitor with no problems with any other graphics, including WoW and so forth. But a complete blur just makes my eyes hurt. Across the room it isn't as bad, but I obviously don't play Civ from across the room....

Hard to say without any info about your graphics card and the
graphic settings you chose to play with.

 

[Disgustipated]

Nearly all my DLC was disabled for some reason. Had to enable many of them.

AS for the blur, I haven't noticed so far. I'm running a 144 hz monitor though.

 

[Tiger Genocide]

Ok call me thick if you like. I didn't play for about 6 weeks and couldn't have forgotten everything. I could almost swear I never received a builder from a goody hut. But now I just did...

I did as well including a free trader unit!

 

[Takfloyd]

How is the tech/production balance in the game now? Do you still reach the modern age in like 500 CE if you don't mod science to take longer?

 

[bbbt]

Minor correction: +25% production actually works out to a 20% reduction in build time, so it's 20% off. Just like a +100% production bonus gives you things in 50% of the time, and a 50% production bonus gives you things in 67% of the time.

Anyway, it seems quite weak to me.

I actually just realized that a pantheon doesn't need to be spread, so it's basically 20% off (as you say) your first district in each city even without a religion. I don't think that's that bad especially with the minimal investment a pantheon requires. Def more of a 'i don't plan on getting a religion' pantheon. At the very least, saves few crucial turns early game in your first few cities.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Anyone want to delve into the files and see what Indonesia and Khmer's starting biases are?

 

[Ferocitus]

How is the tech/production balance in the game now? Do you still reach the modern age in like 500 CE if you don't mod science to take longer?

Level? Game speed?
Dan Quayle level player, average, or Augustus level?

 

[Tiger Genocide]

One thing is for sure, although it was something I noticed last patch, the AI is forward settling each other's capitals as well as myself very badly. It was an issue in Civ 5, but not this bad, and only certain civs tended to do alot (Siam, etc.). I don't know if that is on purpose from the devs or not, but it's kinda cheesy to me. They cannot defend those crap cities at all and they had plenty room to settle along a river next to their own capital.

One game I have running, Japan forward settled Harald's capital, 11 tiles away from their own. On one hand it makes them have conflict and fight more, but he literally wedged his city on the nearest tile he could.

 

[Takfloyd]

Level? Game speed?
Dan Quayle level player, average, or Augustus level?

Any of them, if it's still how it was at launch. Both my first game on a middling difficulty and my second game on Deity went the same way, with me three eras in front of everyone else and maxing out the tech tree in the middle ages. Then spending the next 100 turns building spaceship parts extremely slowly.

 

[Ferocitus]

Anyone want to delve into the files and see what Indonesia and Khmer's starting biases are?

I was planning on doing it later today.
I'm disgusted that 5 minutes after the patch and dlc came out, modders didn't
release updates of everything I used.
I'm prepared to play this game for another 3 or 4 years, but Firaxis are on
notice now!

 

[AmtrakQuebec]

Anyone want to delve into the files and see what Indonesia and Khmer's starting biases are?

I'm guessing something to do with water for Indonesia... but I could be wrong.

 

[V. Soma]

One thing is for sure, although it was something I noticed last patch, the AI is forward settling each other's capitals as well as myself very badly. It was an issue in Civ 5, but not this bad, and only certain civs tended to do alot (Siam, etc.). I don't know if that is on purpose from the devs or not, but it's kinda cheesy to me. They cannot defend those crap cities at all and they had plenty room to settle along a river next to their own capital.

One game I have running, Japan forward settled Harald's capital, 11 tiles away from their own. On one hand it makes them have conflict and fight more, but he literally wedged his city on the nearest tile he could.

I am in my first game since patch, king level, Scythia AI did settle far from capital, though not in my direction, but near a CS (I can't figure out the reasdon for that) - she would have had nice river spot near her capital

 

[Stilgar08]

Nearly all my DLC was disabled for some reason. Had to enable many of them.

AS for the blur, I haven't noticed so far. I'm running a 144 hz monitor though.

same here - for both topics. In general I have the impression it runs more smoothly...

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City Patron Goddess is now my pantheon. I won't ask if this is a new one as well! ;p
Diplo screen sucks and is not an improvement...

 

[nzcamel]

Do you like it so far? Maybe my monitor needs its settings changed. It's a good monitor with no problems with any other graphics, including WoW and so forth. But a complete blur just makes my eyes hurt. Across the room it isn't as bad, but I obviously don't play Civ from across the room....

I don't notice it... much.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm guessing something to do with water for Indonesia... but I could be wrong.

I'm actually curious if they have a bias towards sea resources like how Nubia has a bias towards mineral resources.

 

[DizzKneeLand33]

Okay, so I had to turn down my monitor settings (only to account for the blur) -- when I set Performance Impact and Memory Impact to Medium, the blur is no longer there -- the actions aren't quite as crisp, but that's totally okay.

 

[Ferocitus]

Then spending the next 100 turns building spaceship parts extremely slowly.

Don't be too tough on yourself. I'm sure you have other skills.

 

[Ogro]

So far It seems great, but I'm still on turn 37. I'm playing as Khmer and just encountered a bug:
I had 22 faith (Pantheon unlocks at 25) when I entered a hut that gave me faith. At this point I could select a pantheon on religion screen but I could also pass the turn (no button asking me to choose one)
I tried passing the turn and it did, but then I could no more select a pantheon even though I had more than 25 faith.
So I loaded an autosave and selected a pantheon.

 

[thecrazyscot]

I'm actually curious if they have a bias towards sea resources like how Nubia has a bias towards mineral resources.

Indonesia has a tier 2 start bias for Coast and Khmer has a tier 3 start bias for Rivers - no other biases.