Barbarians & Animals

[xmen510]

There are threads devoted to the Nature Civs, meaning them. Right now, I think that the Ents will appear with the projects in the Wonders thread. We could discuss it there I suppose. They don't really feel like Barbarians or Animals however.

 

[Berenthor]

Yes I agree they shouldn't be barbarians but having them buildable might also not be the best idea. I'm just not sure .

 

[xmen510]

Discussion moved to the Development Forum.

 

[Berenthor]

Moved to development forum.

 

[xmen510]

I will move this discussion to the Development Forum then and we can continue it there if we choose.

Back on Topic again!

 

[xmen510]

I added this little bonus to Smaug:

+1000 Gold (Hoard)

I also updated the Promo Bonus to +100% vs. Dragons.

 

[xmen510]

I adjusted down the Hoard bonus to +600 based on suggestions. I also tweaked the Cave Troll write up to say that it can enter Hill Terrain as well, so it can still attack Dwarven Cities built on Hills around Mountain Terrain.

 

[Sengir]

I think we're going to need to rework the barbarian trait to make this work.

Solution:
It shouldn't be coupled to a trait, but to alignment.
The barbarian units get an alignment as well.
Barbarian units are at peace with civs of the same alignment.

I'm not sure whether this can be implemented easily, a lot depends on how the barbarian trait is implemented. I don't have time to look at it now, but will try to do so in the next couple of days.

 

[xmen510]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean there. Do you mean who starts out at peace with certain barbarians? A couple of Mods have that kind of thing incorporated. We could look into it.

 

[Sengir]

Yeah, that's what I meant. I missed a page.

 

[Breunor]

Should we have Crebain? Would we veiw them as animal/barbarians, or a Saruman type scout?

Best wishes,

Breunor

 

[xmen510]

That is a possible Idea. I like the Idea as having them as a scout. Perhaps as an ivisible scout that cannot be destroyed ecept by other Flying Units and can go into any territory at will. Make them a National Unit limited to a few.

 

[T_F]

Like the Crebain idea. They should act like planes in the normal game.

 

[MasterofLlamas]

Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question because I just stopped in cause this mod looks cool, but what about the Balrog?

 

[Berenthor]

The Balrog will be special units for Morgoth. They maybe later on will spawn as barbarians but not sure about that yet.

 

[T_F]

Hmm, that's an interesting idea. Hadn't thought about having them spawn as barbarians.

 

[xmen510]

That would be interesting. Though it shouldn't be too frequent.

 

[eduhum]

Were is balchoth, the captain of the balrogs?

And Glaurung and Ancalagon were MUCH MORE powerful than Smaug

Also silmaril hunter would be 50 or 100%, not just 25%

 

[xmen510]

Some of those you mentioned are Heroes for the Civs. Others may not be included immediately.

 

[xmen510]

Are we liking the list as it stands, or does anyone else have any suggestions for adding to or removing from the current list?

Do we wish to have Balrogs spawn as a Barbarian Unit or just limit is to Angband to begind with?

If no other suggestions are forthcoming, shall we call this list finalized?