Hakan-i Cihan
Emperor
They differ more than Germany, Netherlands and England differ with each other. Each have a real distict ethnicity related to the other.
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They differ more than Germany, Netherlands and England differ with each other. Each have a real distict ethnicity related to the other.
Dragonflow
Emperor
PerceeP927
Warlord
they've all controlled the lands of morocco at some point, that's the link
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
It's about time the Berbers/Moors/Moroccans are in and aren't lumped with Arabia.
Assuming this is true, that is.
Assuming this is true, that is.
DeutschDachs
Emperor
It's funny to imagine him as a Civilization talent scout seeking out new additions. He just lights up when he says "so it was a trading powerhouse!"
Morocco for BNW
Dragonflow
Emperor
Morocco is probably more well known then the term Berber. We also don't know if it's a Pan-Berber civ or just historical Morocco.
I suspect it's going to be Morocco rather then Berbers and they'll probably have a male leader fitting for the Scramble for Africa scenario.
Moors?
That's a very Eurocentric term that would be inappropriate as a civ name.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
They don't necessarily need a male leader from the time of the Scramble for Africa scenario, though - Shaka died before the Europeans began their real incursions into Africa.
That aside, if the civ is indeed focused more on Morocco instead of being a pan-Berber civ, a possible leader might be Ismail ibn Sharif, one of the greater of the early modern leaders of Morocco. They might also be looking for an Almohad or Almoravid leader.
"Scream"? Not really. But go to about 50 minutes into that video I posted.
The Alaouite dynasty that moved in during the 16th century (and still rule today) considered themselves Arabs, not African Berbers, claiming direct lineage to Muhammad. But it's also true that Morocco has a history that well predates their rule.
Dragonflow
Emperor
Isn't Iroquois some term the Europeans got from other tribes and means something like "baby-eaters", while the people are actually called Haudenosaunee?
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
^ Irinakhoiw, which is a Huron word for Black Snakes. The French changed the ending to ois because they are French and that's what they do.
Except the Theodora painting is a famous painting of her (while a google search does not turn up that other one for quite awhile). Believe it or not, they don't go for female leaders solely because of sex appeal. And certainly none of the leaders have been naked so far.
Anyway, she fought against the Arab invasion. I suspect they'll pick a Muslim Moroccan instead.
Imagine if this painting was adapted for her leaderhead, just like that "sexy" painting of Theodora was adapted for hers.
Except the Theodora painting is a famous painting of her (while a google search does not turn up that other one for quite awhile). Believe it or not, they don't go for female leaders solely because of sex appeal. And certainly none of the leaders have been naked so far.
Anyway, she fought against the Arab invasion. I suspect they'll pick a Muslim Moroccan instead.
ShallowGrave
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If the civ is Morocco (or the Almoravids) the resource linked to them will be camels 
Dragonflow
Emperor
Having a woman lead Morocco during the SfA would be odd and not really fitting. For that reason they'd go with a male leader, it doesn't matter from which era, who was either present for the Scramble or can be renamed to a leader of the 19th century.
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
Devs do not care who leads the nations in any of their scenario
In Mongolian Scenario, Gandhi was the leader (he was actually named, Gandhi)
In The Renaissance scenario, I don't think any of the leaders except Francis (who was Napoleon anyways) were changed in their names (except Askia, Suleiman and Harun, but those 3 were actually new civs)
Well Arabia is the Civ name in the game (hence Arabs of Arabia). When I think of Arabia I think of the Arabian Peninsula. Perhaps it would be better if Devs would consider incorporating adjacent territories/cities with Arabia such as what we now call the UAE, Oman, Yemen rather than territories off the Atlantic Ocean and part of the Mediterranean. And in the same vein indeed have more of a pan-Berber civ that is distinctly Mediterranean so that neighboring territories have adequate inclusion (thinking of Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria). It doesn't have to be called Morocco I guess
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
For a female Moroccan leader who is actually Muslim, how about Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyat. Possibly fictional and never technically a ruler, but she was apparently an extremely influential Berber and was the reason Marrakesh was built in the first place.
ETA: One downside is I can't find a single image of her. This is the closest I can get and I can't even be sure it's her here (not to mention it's not a historical image).
ETA: One downside is I can't find a single image of her. This is the closest I can get and I can't even be sure it's her here (not to mention it's not a historical image).
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Yeah, that's true. Oh well. Kahina would've been a cool leader, a good enough substitute for the Trung sisters if Vietnam doesn't get in.
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