Being Drafted: If America were invaded

What would you do if you were drafted during an invasion of America?


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My service has been offered and rejected. I don't play take-backs. The doctor told me that the "good news" was that in the event of a draft (selective service), my "condition" would be one of the first "physical limitations" to be "forgiven." That's just great! "Going into the Army was your life dream? Sorry, kid... SH!T! We need soldiers! Hey... uh... life dream... maybe...?" I'll fight the invaders from where I am, but I will ignore any draft notice.
 
Virote_Considon said:
The thing is, though, that the US won't get attacked from any other country full-scale. Every country is either too weak, or relies too heavily on America for economic support, which would mean that attacking the US would cripple the country more than help it.

Also, a war like this would cost a country such as China billions, with heavy military losses, and making little gain (a huge, devistated anti-occupier continent, full of millions of people, when China cannot support its own population at the moment).

Thank you for your arguments (i thought I would be banned for such post... "We're All Living in America..." (c) ;) ).
But I think when it comes to a full scale war, nobody will consider American's financial support. I really do not know about facts, that China (for example) uses a lot of economic support from America...
China can support it's army and basic needs of it's own people during war. I do not understand about what economic support you talk, really. :confused:

And about military losses. Remember WW2? Everyone thought, that Germans will have a lot of losses attacking France...
Sheer military might of China (they can create 100 mln army) and total lack of experience of full scale war among USA generals and officers. USA simply do not have defensive doctrine in case of invasion, you know. They rely on Nukes, but in my opinion, they would not use them in case of such invasion...
Total ground war is much more different, than those wars USA participated in 20th century... Only hope to survive such invasion is to make Chinesse fight for each town, village, farm, city, valley and forest. But to do so, american citizens would have to create partisan units (a lot of such units), to disrupt all modern communication networks in USA, destroy bridges, roads, railroads... They would have to use 'partisan' tactics, but... you know... nothing personal (to those living in USA), I don't think that majority of citizens of USA will fight to the death in such a war (a lot of unhappy emmigrants, lack of united religion, lack of unity in society). They may fight for themselves, for their families, but in such war of massive destruction everyone MUST forget a word "I" or "my" and change it to "we" and "ours"

BTW, imho such war WILL be in near future, maybe in 15-20 years. And one side of this war will be USA, if they continue to use their doctrine of "world's policeman" and dictade other countries what to do. You know, resourses are not unlimited... Russia have them in abundance (whole Siberia not yet well searched for them), USA and China... They will search for extra resources. There are only to possible endings:
1. China attacks Russia, then USA attacks Russia or China.
2. USA annexes Mid-East, with help of Israel (US ally), islamic states protests, send a note to U.N., but nothing happens. China has two options - attack Russia (well protected by it's own territory) or 'help' islamic nations in their struggle against USA.
The only question is about a place of EU in these conflicts. I think that it's dependance on resourses from Russia (gas for example) will increase the chance of integrating Russia to EU, securing it's power, position and resourse-independance.
 
Indeed, China relies heavily on American wheat exports. They'd most likely starve a good portion of their population by cutting that off.
 
Brian_B said:
Indeed, China relies heavily on American wheat exports. They'd most likely starve a good portion of their population by cutting that off.

You think that China can not supply minimal needs of their people using their own resourses and strategic reserves? I think that import from USA is big enough to affect people, but, still, I think you are mistaken to think that this country is so heavily dependant from foreign supply of food. No country would risk relying on such things...
 
Mrakvampire said:
You think that China can not supply minimal needs of their people using their own resourses and strategic reserves? I think that import from USA is big enough to affect people, but, still, I think you are mistaken to think that this country is so heavily dependant from foreign supply of food. No country would risk relying on such things...

Indeed, the US thought that they could force Japan to pull out from China in 1940 through the leverage of resources deprivation, and see where that got them... Wait, what was your point again? ;)

The US does not need to think about a defensive war on its own soil right now because neither Canada nor Mexico has the motive or resources to invade overland, and no other country (specifically including China) can move the appropriate amounts of troops or equipment here via air or sea. And if and when China does have that power projection ability, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan will go before California or Alaska does.
 
Invading this country would be the biggest mistake any country could make.

You could not hold onto any terrirory here. The resistence would be even huger then in vietnam or iraq.

But the funny thing is we would be called the insurgents! :lol:
 
Lotus49 said:
Now I'm looking out for me, myself, and I.

Lotus49 said:
What I dislike is with the actual society; where people have become of the mindset that it's every man for himself, and instead of working together, we work against one another. Screw over the guy next to you, if it means you can get ahead.

What's interesting to me is that you say our country is being invaded (I view them as refugees, but that's a different topic). Anyway, you see us as being invaded, yet, you choose to sit on your butt and do nothing. Partly due to the money, which you also bash...

Lotus49 said:
I've seriously thought about it, taking a look at the job postings. But, the federal pay grade level for border agents is less than what I'm currently making, for sitting in an office and doing nothing.

So...Sit around watching TV/surfing the net/napping....

Vs.

Patrolling the desert hunting desperate/unpredictable people that have nothing to lose.

Tough.

Lotus49 said:
Every man for himself. Bunch of selfish, money-loving spoiled brats - that's where we're heading.

Sounds like you've become exactly what you despise to me.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the thought process behind it. You had a bad experience in the military. But you might want to think about the reasons you gave for it being bad, and the way you're making decisions these days. They seem pretty similar to me.
 
BTW, imho such war WILL be in near future, maybe in 15-20 years. And one side of this war will be USA, if they continue to use their doctrine of "world's policeman" and dictade other countries what to do. You know, resourses are not unlimited... Russia have them in abundance (whole Siberia not yet well searched for them), USA and China... They will search for extra resources. There are only to possible endings:
1. China attacks Russia, then USA attacks Russia or China.
2. USA annexes Mid-East, with help of Israel (US ally), islamic states protests, send a note to U.N., but nothing happens. China has two options - attack Russia (well protected by it's own territory) or 'help' islamic nations in their struggle against USA.
The only question is about a place of EU in these conflicts. I think that it's dependance on resourses from Russia (gas for example) will increase the chance of integrating Russia to EU, securing it's power, position and resourse-independance.

As for the EU, the governments are generally pro-US (certainly here in Britain, and I gather Berlusconi was) but decidedly anti-Russian. The people themselves on the other hand are generally anti-US. So I don't think in the event of such a mighty war that the EU would be desperately likely to join either "side". However, and I know this is sometimes hard for some Americans to understand, *the EU is not a single country*. If such a war did take place, I wouldn't be surprised to see the EU disintegrate... then again, maybe not, because it's an economic rather than a military agreement. Just look at Iraq - Britain and Italy were in there but France and Germany were avidly anti-war.
 
Of course I'd sign up.
 
Civrules said:
Not only do we have a good military, but considering how many Americans own firearms...

Firearms have not been proven to be a disincentive to invasion.

/obligatory

WOLVERINES!

/end obligatory

The truth is, in the modern age where the US would see any troops movement months before they could be mobilized an invasion is near impossible. The US is very lucky in that it has too massive oceans for borders and its other 2 borders are owned by friendly nations and ones that, in a crisis, if need be, the US could easily dominate.
 
warpus said:
but you can't say it will never happen.

lol, how much are you willing to wager?

Even if the US is eclipsed as a power, what we currently possess will insure this will not come to pass on a significant scale.
 
warpus said:
American world domination has to end sometime - an invasion in the next 50 years is unlikely but you can't say it will never happen.

I won't dispute that America's ability to dominate on the world scene may diminish, but that doesn't mean it will fall from the top spot in military might anytime soon at all. It just means the emergence of other regional powers will be more capable of countering the US's influence. Honestly, I just don't see anyone eclipsing the US in military might.

warpus said:
Who knows what events lie ahead?
St. John of Patmos. ;)
 
Mrakvampire said:
You think that China can not supply minimal needs of their people using their own resourses and strategic reserves? I think that import from USA is big enough to affect people, but, still, I think you are mistaken to think that this country is so heavily dependant from foreign supply of food. No country would risk relying on such things...

No nation intentionally goes about to set themselves up on depending on foreign exports; however, that hasn't stopped OPEC from having a pretty big stranglehold on the U.S. and the rest of the world.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
mrakvampire it seems you are living in his own world, run by the liberal media

We'll see, we'll see... :)
Escalation of another World War has already begun, it's simply a matter of time...
 
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