Berzerker
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Who and what are these anti-fascists? They show up at other people's protests to attack them and they're called anti-fascists? And you're serious?
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Timsup2nothin
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It's interesting how the right wing extremists have perverted "fascism" to mean "anyone who is violent." Fascists (currently represented by the 'alt-right') have never just sat back down of their own accord once they stand up. They have to be put down, every time, with violence. Those who are willing to be responsible for seeing to it are violent, but are not fascists, and don't necessarily even hate anyone.
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Surely the anti-racist people are the side we should judge less than the racist side?
Berzerker
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Who said that? Does that include people defending themselves and the people attacking them?
edit: and dont send me any more foul mouthed messages for asking.
The anti-racist (thats quite an assumption) side showed up and attacked protesters and are using photos to hunt them down for further retribution. Free speech wont survive in that environment, every group with a message not in tune with the 'anti-fascists' will have to reconsider protesting.
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Congresswoman Pelosi and Berkeley Mayor Arreguin condemn Antifa violence.
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Yeah. The Washington Post also wrote a pretty hard-hitting piece a few days before that.
Seems like we've hit a tipping point of sorts.
Seems like we've hit a tipping point of sorts.
Berzerker
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And what did these fine folk have to say about antifa in Virginia? Did they criticize Trump for condemning violence on 'many sides'?
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Warned for flaming.
Probably, because they probably are not buying the totally bogus description of events there that you and your ilk have been trying to claim as the reality.
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They criticized the side that perpetrated a terrorist attack, as any rational person would.
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A rational person would wait for facts before throwing around accusations of terrorism and they'd hold the guilty party responsible, not their "side". By your logic the victim was responsible for the violence instigated by antifa because they were on her side.
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Are you ever going to give up this fantasy you have about the innocent Nazis and their harmless white supremacist friends? Your constant stream of comments based on your alternative facts make it hard to have a conversation.
Traitorfish
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I'm beginning to think that Berzerker actually imagines the Nazis to be a more imminent threat to American democracy than those advocating for public Nazi-punching.
Reason being, nobody who wasn't actually a fascist would spend so much time and energy sucking up to fascists unless they thought there was a very serious chance of these guys running the country in the next ten years.
Career-minded, you could say.
Reason being, nobody who wasn't actually a fascist would spend so much time and energy sucking up to fascists unless they thought there was a very serious chance of these guys running the country in the next ten years.
Career-minded, you could say.
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Well, they did get their man in the white house, so it seems they are on the rise.
The thing about equating any violence to fascism is that it erases the very real hard work fascists put in to their efforts
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That was hilarious.
onejayhawk
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Both are not fascists. Neither are. Substitute the word "bully" for fascist and you are much closer. Both are very much bullies.
Which is which? They are so much alike, it gets hard to differentiate.
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I guess if you consider only "willing to use violence" and absolutely nothing else you could have a hard time with that. And of course such a simplified view would likely have a certain appeal for someone dealing with severe mental challenges.
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People have the right to speak, I didn't realize that was sucking up to fascists. I thought they opposed that right...like these antifa people. I like free speech, I'm happy to defend it from all comers, left or right. And the imminent threat to free speech are these people attacking protesters, they are fascists and you're "sucking up" to them. I gotta shake my head at the irony and hypocrisy, at no point have I endorsed the protester's message - in fact I support removing all those statues - but you do support the people attacking free speech. NO FREE SPEECH FOR YOU!
The ''right to free speech'' is the right to not be arrested by the government for talking, it doesn't give you the right to not be punched in the face for it.
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I don't know the exact laws of America, but I would think punching a person in the face is generally not something that is legal, independent from whether they said something that triggered you, or not.
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