Berserks01 - Space Monkies

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You work on the 4th ? I get the 4th, 5th, and 6th off as holidays

lurker's comment: If you look closely, Lucky is from Rio de Janeiro. Here, in Brazil, 4th of July means nothing regarding holidays. Our Independence Day is Sep, 7th.

At least, in Sao Paulo, Jul, 9th is a holiday.

 

[Lucky1972]

If you look closely, you'll see berserks01 was being sarcastic. Brag as much as you want, Berserks, We will get our revenge on the 7th of September, when YOU will be working and WE will be playing civ.

 

[Lucky1972]

I'm still at work but have some minutes to spare. I got calendar from trading and researched drama (to compensate for losing the henge effect). I now selected Metal Casting (5) But we could go for music (6), the GA is still available. Research is good at 100% (we have a lot of money).

Mao has the piramids, the hanging gardens and probably the great wall in beijing, defended by 3 archers and a spear. Ok, protective archers, but should we try to get it before longbows? We have a lot of troops...

Just posting this in case someone has any thoughts before I finish playing (in about 2-3 hours).

 

[berserks01]

We're still at war with Hannibal. I wouldn't start a war with Mao or anyone til we make peace with Hannibal. Plus we want to get GK and/or JC into the war with us.

 

[Lucky1972]

After we killed his 2 axes and sword (no losses), Han is paying us $80 for peace. I think keeping the war will hurt him economicaly. But I don't see any way for us to profit from this war.

 

[Lucky1972]

Already played, but can only post the report tomorrow morning. Peter had declared on Mansa, not Han. on turn 9 Mao declared on Mansa as well. I didn't make peace with Han and refused requests to declare on Mansa by Peter and Mao. We have a few cats and phants now. Mao is Jew, not hindu (we were 1 turn late). Researched Sailing, Drama and Metal Casting, set to Machinery (no beakers invested). Got Calendar from trade. I guess I should post the save now if you want to check it, sorry for the delay on the report, but I guess is best to allow the game to move on (the pace is great and maybe some of you are on holidays )

 

[Lucky1972]

Turn 143/460 (660 AD) [04-Jul-2007 07:14:35]
Tech learned: Sailing
A little MM, we get Sailing in one turn.

IBT:
Hinduism has spread: Turfan (Mongolian Empire)
Spontaneous spread of Hinduism. We got another one or two in this turnset.

Turn 144/460 (680 AD) [04-Jul-2007 07:19:28]
Research begun: Drama (6 Turns)

This was the best deal I fond. GK would only declare on Han for all our techs, I thought it was too expensive.

Our missionary does his job in Roman lands and Julius converts next turn
Hinduism has spread: Arretium (Roman Empire)
Banana Three's borders expand

IBT:
State Religion Change: Julius Caesar(Rome) from 'no State Religion' to 'Hinduism'
Attitude Change: Julius Caesar(Rome) towards SpaceMonkies(Zululand), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 145/460 (700 AD) [04-Jul-2007 08:15:46]
Some here. After putting one turn of hammers (not much, since I was working food and commerce) into an elephant in Banana One, I change my mind and start a market. You might want to check that, we will start losing the hammers in the phant in 2 turns.
Mansa gets feudalism.

Turn 146/460 (720 AD) [04-Jul-2007 08:30:09]
We kill Hannibal’s stack of 2 axeman and a sword. I use some shock promotions and we have no losses. Later on Han sends us a WARRIOR (!!) who is still hiding in the jungle next to Banana Two.

IBT:
State Religion Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'no State Religion' to 'Judaism'
This happens just before we convert Beijing

Turn 147/460 (740 AD) [04-Jul-2007 08:44:49]
Hinduism has spread: Beijing (Chinese Empire)

We learn Drama and I decide for Metal Casting, for the forges and workshops and for trade material.

Turn 148/460 (760 AD) [04-Jul-2007 20:43:17]

IBT:
Christianity founded in a distant land

Turn 150/460 (800 AD) [04-Jul-2007 21:05:42]

Hinduism has spread: Rome (Roman Empire)

We are Glorious!

IBT:
Hinduism has spread: Antium (Roman Empire)
(this was spontaneous)

Turn 151/460 (820 AD) [04-Jul-2007 21:21:15]

IBT:
Mao Zedong(China) declares war on Mansa Musa(Mali)

both requests declined. I am sorry if that was a mistake, But I didn't want to sign peace with Han for only 80 gold, and another war with MM seemed wrong to me now.

I didn't check the available trades after Metal Casting, you should do that. I left a missionary unmoved (signed).

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

If you look closely, you'll see berserks01 was being sarcastic. Brag as much as you want, Berserks, We will get our revenge on the 7th of September, when YOU will be working and WE will be playing civ.

Perhaps, but September third is Labor Day here in the states, so his day off comes a few days earlier than yours.

Trust me. Americans have the monopoly on lazy.

 

[berserks01]

Trust me, I have tons of days off left this year since I have not taken that many days off this year. There are vacation days from work, and lots of holidays towards the end of the year. So I'm happy

Roster
GreyFox – missed a vine
Berserks01 – swung around Lucky with a swap
Rex Tyrannus – grab on tight cuz you're swinging now baby
Sammcs – auto-skipped til he reports in again
Negyvenketto – swung already
Lucky 1972 – just swung off his branch

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

wait, I'm up already??? I just played a few days ago. I'm also up in about four other games, so if Fox can take it (or anyone else) that might help the pace a bit.

 

[Lucky1972]

As you can see I kind of rushed that report, missing things like the picture of Metal Casting finishing on the last turn. A am not very happy with my play during this turnset. I should have sent another missionary to China, not Rome, and should have started a settler before the market. And I didn't know what to do with the war against Hannibal. On one hand, I think it's good for us that he stays in war mode, should slow down his research a bit. On the other hand, he is to far away for us to send troops, and even if we send them, what to do? raze everything? Doesn't seem right.

What I did was to send scouting chariots to spot any troop movement from him. I promoted a chariot to visibility (it's called sentry, I think) that is parked in a hill to the south, but maybe it should go to the west now.

I whipped a worker in Banana Two, mainly for the overflow to a Forge, but not sure if it was a good decision either.

Important: I just started to chop a forest on the spices near Banana One, for the plantation and to help with the market (or settler). You can change that.

We're running 2 sci and 1 priest in Banana One, GP due in 4, IIRC. A GS could be used to pop Philosophy (and get Tao) (pretty creative, bet nobody ever thought of that one). The prophet would lightbulb Theology I think, but Christianity was already founded.

The report also seems to miss Julius building the Parthenon (but I remember it).

Did you see that picture of Beijing? Yummy, don't you think?

I still think we should discuss expansion plans and city specialization, like Rex pointed. I will try to come up with some suggestions.

I would welcome any comments on my play, I want to improve. You don't even need to be polite.

Oh, and I give up on the laziness competition. Let me get back to work now.

 

[berserks01]

Alright, I'll pick it up for another round but won't be able to play til saturday.

 

[negyvenketto]

I can play tonight, if you don't mind.

 

[berserks01]

Go right ahea Negy

 

[negyvenketto]

Somehow we were not on round number with the turn No.
So I just played 7 turns to make it #160 (1000 AD).

I made quite a few trades. We may get diplo minuses, but we have

Mao will get his own rice soon, but in the meantime we get his

We may want to switch to Vassalage, I haven't done.

Research: Leibniz was born and discovered Philosophy for us. What a great work from a mathematician

Grabbing Taoism was close call, Peter get Philo few turns later, but there is no second prize in tis race for him

Machinery finished, started Civil Sevice. The tech situation:

War: Hannibal's warrior was killed by a barb archer, who has died on our Impi.
He is healing on the banana plantation SE from Banana Two. A barb archer is going to visit him next turn.

I'm not sure what we want from him, but I rejected now

I left 2 workers unmoved here, I would build the plantation over the village, but you can veto this.

Spoiler :

Turn 153/460 (860 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:21:27]
Banana Three grows: 10
A Hamlet was built near Banana Three
A Village was built near Banana Three

IBT:
Civics Change: Peter(Russia) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'
Civics Change: Peter(Russia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Peter(Russia) from 'Slavery' to 'Serfdom'

Turn 154/460 (880 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:29:59]
Tech learned: Horseback Riding
A Plantation was built near Banana Three
A Village was built near Banana Two
Champagne grows: 10
Banana Three finishes: Catapult

IBT:

Turn 155/460 (900 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:34:57]
Banana Three begins: Market (12 turns)
While attacking in the wild near Bulgar, Impi defeats (1.44/4): Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
Banana One grows: 13

IBT:

Turn 156/460 (920 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:37:52]
Gottfried Leibniz (Scientist) (Great Scientist) born in Banana One
A Hamlet was built near Banana One
Champagne finishes: Theatre

IBT:
Hinduism has spread: Tabriz (Mongolian Empire)
Civics Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'Hereditary Rule' to 'Representation'
Civics Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'Slavery' to 'Serfdom'
Civics Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'
Civics Change: Julius Caesar(Rome) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'
Civics Change: Mansa Musa(Mali) from 'Slavery' to 'Serfdom'

Turn 157/460 (940 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:38:52]
Champagne begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
Hinduism has spread: Nanjing (Chinese Empire)
Tech learned: Philosophy
Taoism founded in Banana Two
Taoism has spread: Banana Two
A Hamlet was built near Champagne
A Hamlet was built near Champagne
Banana Three grows: 11

IBT:
Civics Change: Hannibal(Carthage) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Hannibal(Carthage) from 'Slavery' to 'Serfdom'
Civics Change: Hannibal(Carthage) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'

Turn 158/460 (960 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:47:24]
A Plantation was built near Banana Two
Taoism has spread: Banana One
Tech learned: Feudalism
Tech learned: Machinery
Champagne finishes: Hindu Missionary

IBT:

Turn 159/460 (980 AD) [06-Jul-2007 17:56:58]
Research begun: Civil Service (8 Turns)
Champagne begins: Hindu Missionary (3 turns)
A Plantation was built near Banana One

IBT:
Mansa Musa(Mali) and Peter(Russia) have signed a peace treaty

Turn 160/460 (1000 AD) [06-Jul-2007 18:03:28]

The save

 

[berserks01]

Nicely done, Negy.

Ok, the roster's kinda screwed up now. I swapped with Lucky, and so it's Rex's turn. But Negy played, so it's like a swap with Rex. Kinda like yankey swap

So if Rex played, we should be good to go with Lucky up after him and the roster should be back in order.

 

[Lucky1972]

If we can get money or something better for the spices, I fully support the plantation over the village.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

save in sight, cap'n. ETA tomorrow evening.



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[Rex Tyrannus]

update. I played but will have to post the report tomorrow morning. Sorry to take so long.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

Okay, firstly, to address the village vs. plantation debate, we now have one fewer villages.

I know pholkhero thinks it's some fantastic and groovey idea to cottage "superfluous" resources, but I simply cannot agree. The facts: with a village, the tile earns 7 gold and 2 food. With a town, it'll earn 8 gold. With a plantation, it'll earn 4 gold and three food. But, it also gets us sugar.

In my opinion, far more valuable.

Anyhow, moving on, MM, while still at war, builds Chichen Itza. At least this has military value.

We got CS

I took a barb city.

We now have five. There's another barb city to the southeast. I suggest we take it, plus settle the gold region just to its west. That'll be seven cities and cooking. After about eight turns, I remembered to check our civics. I made the switch.

Our scouts found this. What's Peter up to? He's annoyed at us. Worse, Khan is his best buddy, so the prick wouldn't close borders.

The power graph puts us right in the middle.

This is good, considering I built no troops. Only buildings. Lets put up some longbows and monitor the power graph for spikes.

Anyhow, I tried to make peace, but Hannibal wouldn't take anything other than a straight trade. Further, MM offered CoL for HBR + 200 gold, but when I went to negotiate, he wouldn't take the trade he offered us. Sorry.

That's it. We're really cruising vis a vis science. Much of my turnset was 100% with a surplus. Then I took Yue-Chi and it dipped to 100% @ -4GPT.