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Best GOP Candidate

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by orrery, May 7, 2011.

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Which candidate would you support most over Obama?

  1. Ron Paul

    27 vote(s)
    20.3%
  2. Gary Johnson

    10 vote(s)
    7.5%
  3. Tom Miller

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Donald Trump

    22 vote(s)
    16.5%
  5. Sarah Palin

    13 vote(s)
    9.8%
  6. Rand Paul

    2 vote(s)
    1.5%
  7. Newt Gingrich

    5 vote(s)
    3.8%
  8. Herman Cain

    3 vote(s)
    2.3%
  9. General Petraeus

    19 vote(s)
    14.3%
  10. Mitt Romney

    32 vote(s)
    24.1%
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  1. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    It looks like you will be voting for Paul/other dude because we aren't getting our of Afghanistan any time soon, same with Iraq to a lesser extent.
    I'm not sure of our current involvement status in Libya though.
     
  2. illram

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    Ron Paul's one or two good policy positions are outweighed by the 500 or so completely insane ones.
     
  3. Ceoladir

    Ceoladir Come Fly With Me

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    The news media is anti-Israel? The certainly aren't pro-Palestinian.
     
  4. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    In American politics, being 'pro-Palestine' is stating that both sides need to learn how to get along.
     
  5. Mercenary82

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    It's worse then that, to even suggest we take a slightly less biased approach to Israel/Palestine gets you branded as anti-semetic.
     
  6. orrery

    orrery Ad Astra Per Aspera

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    ^^ Best post.
     
  7. zjl56

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    I have to agree with what most of your saying, especially when it comes to a few of the first primary states. Despite the fanatical support you can drum up on the internet or at rallies most of those people never bother to show up in force or are few in number in the beginning primary states.

    But, I do have a point of contention. While the candidates that go out and do a large campaign for the religious right have a consistent record of winning the Iowa primary and the later ones that happen in the South and Midwest, a candidate that can distance himself away from the religious right and become the greatest candidate for libertarians could easily do a repeat of what Mccain did, and especially if the Tea Party gives them a solid backing.

    While Ron Paul stands absolutely no chance, IMO I could see Romney or Mitch Daniels entering the race late and trying his hardest to get this segment of the Republican party, and try and repeat McCains campaign.
     
  8. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Whether or not he's centrist depends on which way the wind is blowing and who he's trying to sell something to. He doesn't have convictions.
     
  9. bhsup

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    I was referring to healthcare.
     
  10. knez

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    I had no attention in posting on this thread but...

    you are aware that rising of prices or inflation is caused by the increases in money supply, and that the only significant thing FED does is increasing money supply?

    you can argue banking system would became unstable, economy would not grow or whatever nonsense, but this is beyond ********

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    I hope Americans elect Ron Paul, but
    a) it will not happen
    b) I doubt it would change anything

    just look at Reagan, he was elected as a man who will destroy socialism and his 8 years in the end just helped the growth of big government
     
  11. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Not sure what you are trying to say here. The Fed doesn't cause inflation. It accommodates the changes in the price level so that it isn't disruptive. Core inflation is low, despite what the Fed has been trying to do. And those prices that are going up are doing so because of market shortages.
     
  12. knez

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    P*Q=M*V

    seriously, even mainstream economist won't argue with this...
     
  13. Rashiminos

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    Food prices are still rising: http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/0...hit-record-high-spurring-worries-a-91940.html

    Throw some ongoing natural disasters into the mix. Inflation is here and won't be going anywhere soon.
     
  14. zjl56

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    Core inflation is low due to the fact that doesn't account for most commodities that actually matter to consumers, and the FED's actions should not be solely determined by it, rather it should take into account other figures like the CPI to gauge what its next actions should be.
     
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    North America is not synonymous with the United States.
     
  16. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    PROTIP: Research before posting.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/10/even-reagan-wasn-t-a-reagan-republican.html
    We have two proffessional economists here: Integral and JerichoHill. Care to PM them and see if they agree with you?
     
  17. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Sure. I've explained that to many people right here on this forum. You don't seem to know what it means, though.

    You have 4 variables. They all move.
     
  18. knez

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    one for you: read my posts?
    No.

    But than again, as someone who took and passed microeconomics, macroeconomics, monetary policy, and economic policy classes on college and read way to much of ****** economic literature, I have no uncertainties about where mainstream economists stand. Even they will after external/internal shock lamentation admit that only relevant reason for continuous price increases is money printing (or monetary expansion if we want it to sound better...)

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    Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
     
  19. Ajidica

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    I did. You asserted Reagan started to end big government. I demonstrated he did nothing of the kind except in his speaches. Unless you are living in an Orwellian world where 'starts to end big government' translates into 'increasing the size of the bureaucracy by 60,000 members and raised taxes to fund government healthcare'.

    Okay. As I said. Ask Jericho or Integral how widely held that position is.
     
  20. knez

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    ...in the end just helped the growth of big government
     
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