Beta 12

My assault on Leon was also made worse when I discovered a Spanish mine producing amber. Like that city needs a buff, or another handy happiness resource! I guess it could have been worse and been iron, though.
 
Is Notre Dame supposed to be available to build for everyone? I noticed that Krak Chavallier was Catholic state only and the cathedral is a lot more 'pious'.

Is it intentional that forests do not add health? The benefits of chopping and dropping mills/workshops/cottages keep most trees from long lives but would be nice to at least have the option.
 
Is Notre Dame supposed to be available to build for everyone? I noticed that Krak Chavallier was Catholic state only and the cathedral is a lot more 'pious'.

Is it intentional that forests do not add health? The benefits of chopping and dropping mills/workshops/cottages keep most trees from long lives but would be nice to at least have the option.
Yes, a cathedral can be adapted to another faith (Hagia Sophia anyone?), but the Krak was a fortress used by crusaders.

Yes it is because health is supposed to be scarce
 
If all civs can build the Temple Mount - the Holy of Holies - without being Jewish, than a cathedral makes sense for all civs to build. It would make sense to require catholocism present in its city, like St. Sophia does with Orthodoxy.
 
But surely a Muslim or Pagan civ wouldn't build the Notre Dame?

Why not? It is ahistroic, but we don't want to script the game and make it run on rails.

Karak was a Crusader thing. The Dome of the Rock is a specific Muslim thing. The Round Church is associated with Orthodox politics and Caesaropapism. Notre Dame is a gigantic temple/cathedral and I don't see why it couldn't be a temple for any religion (including Paganism).
 
If all civs can build the Temple Mount - the Holy of Holies - without being Jewish, than a cathedral makes sense for all civs to build. It would make sense to require catholocism present in its city, like St. Sophia or the Round Church do with Orthodoxy.

Temple Mount isn't the Temple Mount. Temple Mount is The Old Synagogue of Krakow, this is something that I have been thinking about fixing for some time now.
 
Easy boys, just wanted to know if a glitch had snuck in as I haven't played Arabia in a while and noticed the difference :D

Is it possible to add a list of the religion specific wonders to the civilopedia entries for the religions?

PS: Seljuk spawns next to Jerusalem is not nice by the way :(
 
Easy boys, just wanted to know if a glitch had snuck in as I haven't played Arabia in a while and noticed the difference :D

Is it possible to add a list of the religion specific wonders to the civilopedia entries for the religions?

The wonders do list if they require specific religion. I will look at the reverse.
 
The wonders do list if they require specific religion. I will look at the reverse.

Sry Veshta, but I don't think this is necessary, noone would really use it
There are only 5-6 wonders with state religion requirement, and they are easy to find
 
Sry Veshta, but I don't think this is necessary, noone would really use it
There are only 5-6 wonders with state religion requirement, and they are easy to find
No worries, just a bit a convenience junkie when it comes to such things :lol:
 
Temple Mount isn't the Temple Mount. Temple Mount is The Old Synagogue of Krakow, this is something that I have been thinking about fixing for some time now.

I think renaming it to "Jewish Quarter of Krakow" is the best option. At least for now.
 
I think renaming it to "Jewish Quarter of Krakow" is the best option. At least for now.

I don't want to name it after a city as it may be build in another city. It should be generic, like Grand Synagogue or something. The idea is to represent the laws established by Casimir that protected the Jews, leading to lots of Jews migrating to Poland.
 
I understand. Maybe the Old Synagogue is better. Or Kazimierz (The best known Jewish Quarter in Krakow). I don't think there is a city with the same name.
 
Temple Mount isn't the Temple Mount. Temple Mount is The Old Synagogue of Krakow, this is something that I have been thinking about fixing for some time now.

So it is . . . I always built it in Jerusalem when playing as a crusader civ (since I always purged the Jews -if present- from my cities to increase papal favour and odds of leading a crusade), which only further cemented my confusion here.

Easy boys, just wanted to know if a glitch had snuck in as I haven't played Arabia in a while and noticed the difference :D

You have to admit you had it coming - you know the internets mean serious business. :p
 
So it is . . . I always built it in Jerusalem when playing as a crusader civ (since I always purged the Jews -if present- from my cities to increase papal favour and odds of leading a crusade), which only further cemented my confusion here.

You cannot prosecute religion in Jerusalem, if you can then it is a bug. You can prosecure Jews form cities after you build the Temple Mount, but you cannot prosecute the city with the Temple Mount itself.

Again, Temple Mount is the Polish wonder representing the Polish tolerance for Jews (i.e. the Synagogue in Krakow or something similarly appropriate).
 
You cannot prosecute religion in Jerusalem, if you can then it is a bug. You can prosecure Jews form cities after you build the Temple Mount, but you cannot prosecute the city with the Temple Mount itself.

Again, Temple Mount is the Polish wonder representing the Polish tolerance for Jews (i.e. the Synagogue in Krakow or something similarly appropriate).

Sorry I wasn't more clear - I meant to say I persecute the Jews in my core cities - Jerusalem is often the only city left for me to build the "Temple Mount" in, which further led to my confusion that the "Temple Mount" was the Temple Mount.

I also vote for changing the name to Kazimierz, to prevent further confusion regarding the wonder's origin & purpose.
 
Now with that dynamic research cost, GP-bulbing seems far less useful now.
Any comment with this issue?
 
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