Beta 9 Talk

Have you built the round church? It gives a diplomatic penalty with all other orthodox civs.

3Miro explained why, but it is still weird that just one wonder has negative effects.
Yes I did - and I do find it weird. I'm beginning to feel orthodoxy is now seriously nerfed wonder-wise. :sad:

Also, what's up with not being able to sell my techs? :confused:
 

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Yes I did - and I do find it weird. I'm beginning to feel orthodoxy is now seriously nerfed wonder-wise. :sad:

Also, what's up with not being able to sell my techs? :confused:

Honestly Orthodoxy is always useful, it is great for large empires and domination victories. The +1:hammers: from priests wonder is superpowerful
 
I like the round church. As Moscow it's pretty much the only wonder you can get due to religion requirements, and with all those free engineers (guild halls) I can make a super culture city that encroaches on polish lands, and that priest bonus is nice with the suped up windmills
 
Why is there no option to build Jewish missionaries. I wanted to seriously screw up history by playing as the Jewish Spanish empire but I couldn't build missionaries.
 
Why is there no option to build Jewish missionaries. I wanted to seriously screw up history by playing as the Jewish Spanish empire but I couldn't build missionaries.

Probably because Jews haven't seriously proselytized since the Roman EMpire
 
Why is there no option to build Jewish missionaries. I wanted to seriously screw up history by playing as the Jewish Spanish empire but I couldn't build missionaries.

Because it isn't historical to build jewish missionaries.
 
If you want to play a Jewish empire, pick Arabia.

An positive effect of it, you'll get a palace in every city because of their UP.
 
Ok this still hasn't been fixed. Why is "Podolia" unstable for Moscovy?

To Northwest and North is Volhynia which is solid. To the Northeast, east, and southeast, theres Kiev which is Solid

South of it is Moldova which is OK
East of it is Galicia which is OK

Shouldn't the province be a Solid for Moscovy?
 
Ok this still hasn't been fixed. Why is "Podolia" unstable for Moscovy?

To Northwest and North is Volhynia which is solid. To the Northeast, east, and southeast, theres Kiev which is Solid

South of it is Moldova which is OK
East of it is Galicia which is OK

Shouldn't the province be a Solid for Moscovy?

Do you mean the Jewish Arabian UP? We don't fix it because it won't happen in a normal game. It will only happen when a human player plays Arabia. And even then most people don't switch to Judism.
 
Do you mean the Jewish Arabian UP? We don't fix it because it won't happen in a normal game. It will only happen when a human player plays Arabia. And even then most people don't switch to Judaism.
I prefer maxing out Islam and obliterating the world with Muhammadan hordes :evil:
 
I think the mod is awesome! For example the choice of resources is nice. Though I'm a little bit confused why are there gems in Estonia - do they represent amber? At least nowadays amber is much more common in Latvia. In middle ages Estonian economy flourished based on piracy (the famous Eastern Vikings of Saaremaa) and later on salt transit. The only resources we had were timber (especially oak wood for ships after deforestation in Europe) and wheat/barley/rye (some even called Estonia the granary of Sweden).

I would suggest changing the province borders in Baltics too. Saaremaa (seu Ösel) should be under Estonian province, Estonian province's eastern border should be in the center of lake Peipus and following the river Narva. Historical Curland should be under Livonia. Well, the best way to demonstrate it, is to draw it myself. :D I based these borders on maps in Wikipedia's article Livonia, mostly to show pre-Crusades tribal borders.
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Although I agree, that regarding the Polish UHV conditions, the current Livonian northern border (except for Saaremaa - the Polish didn't conquer Saaremaa) is good too.
 
Ok this still hasn't been fixed. Why is "Podolia" unstable for Moscovy?

To Northwest and North is Volhynia which is solid. To the Northeast, east, and southeast, theres Kiev which is Solid

South of it is Moldova which is OK
East of it is Galicia which is OK

Shouldn't the province be a Solid for Moscovy?

Not necessarily. Ruthenians (Ukrainians) always wanted to be free, and were until it was taken up by Austria-Hungary, if my time is correct that is. Russia had most lands of Ukrain conquered yes but I guess the "OK" in this game would represent the nationalism in the Ukrainian people's...
Same goes for Moldova. Remember that it was under Poland before Russia (also a free state too).
Well that's my guess for their choices. :p
 
If I remember correctly Judaism doesnt use missionaries IRL unlike the christian religion.
 
If I remember correctly Judaism doesnt use missionaries IRL unlike the christian religion.

If you're saying that they don't proselytize, I think it depends on the sect of Judaism. But then again, I am not an expert.
 
If you're saying that they don't proselytize, I think it depends on the sect of Judaism. But then again, I am not an expert.

During the timeframe and location of RFCE Jews did not proselytize therefore no missionaries
 
I wonder why a Celtic civilization has been so thoroughly swept under the rug in this mod. Not that I am Celtic or have any Celtic ancestry (just so that people know I don't have bias here) but seriously, the resistance Celtics posed to the Kingdom of Great Britain certainly slowed it's colonial development (A part of the reason why England's first colony was in the late 1600's/early 1700's)

And the Highlanders/Welsh Longbowman barb units are pretty pathetic. They don't spawn in large numbers and just raze cities they inhabit.
 
During the timeframe and location of RFCE Jews did not proselytize therefore no missionaries

Yeah but Judaism spread all over Europe in the real world but without missionaries the spread of Judaism is almost impossible. In 1800 the only city with Judaism is Jerusalem and that's because I can persecute them out of a holy city.
 
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