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Ghengis Khan exterminated everyone in huge swaths of the regions he conquered (even says so in Civ4), Stalin exterminated millions of his own people via forced collectivization and forced labor camps, and of course there was the human sacrifice the Aztecs practiced: yet these civs are in the games we play. Is it because you don't actually need to make these atrocities part of your gaming strategy (like you would in Col) when you play these civs?

Yes, I haven't played it for years, but I don't remember Col providing cultural or diplomatic victory conditions. I assume these would be included in any remake, as they're standard in Civ now. Would really improve the game, too.

Maybe it's just the 'narrower focus' that has caused Col to be ignored. Slavery was virtually ignored in Col (and other strategy games) but is shamelessly in Civ 4.

As you point out, it seems that most if not ALL civilizations are capable of horrendous acts, I guess we feel more guilty about our own Civ:(
 
Now don't quote me, but I highly doubt Firaxis will try to 'cash in' on the ppl that won the mod contest and were notified recently.
It would make much more sense for that content along with the pending bug fixes et al, to be released with the next patch.
As well someone who appears to be in the know mentioned the next patch will include the ability to "choose the map script" in game... which since one of the mod winners wrote PerfectWorld (PerfectMap?).
It would seem Firaxis is set to give back to the community, which will pretty much shut up everyone thats been . .. .. .. .. .ing about lack of a patch. And garner them some good karma towards whatever their next endeavor after Revolutions is.
 
Civ4 gold has BtS in it.

That's not true. I have Civ IV gold because that's all that was available in North American stores for quite a while. It contains Vanilla + Warlords. I had to buy BtS after.

"Civ IV Complete" has Vanilla plus both expansions, but I don't know if it's available yet in North America. Always possible to order online I guess.
 
Hmm... a friend of mine got civ4/all the expansions in one package... can't remember what it was called though but Civ IV gold is Civ4/warlords...
 
OK, sorry I got them mixed up, but point is all 3 are available in one pack... now there has never been a civ with more than two XPs, so I rerally cant see what else a hypothetical Civ gold would contain
 
Dang missed out on this it looks like. Too bad this wasn't posted in the Creation and Customization forums. That and stories are the only places on this site I check out. Haven't been on this forum in months, just misclicked, but saw this. Oh well.

In the future though, if you are looking for beta testers, please post in the Modding section as well. There are alot of people there who test out game tweaks for fun, I've ran litterally hundreds of AI games just to test tweaks to mods I've made so that things are balanced as far as I can tell. Also it seems like people who can mess around with the game mechanics would be who you are looking for.
 
I wish I'd been chosen.
 
Haven't heard news of them having announced who was chosen yet.

I haven't gotten a notification email yet. If I was picked I'd have gotten it right? Anybody from the U.S get one yet?
 
i bet they are waiting till the last minute to tell you guys so it dosn't leak out earlyer than it needs to be
 
I don't know how I overlooked this thread but I did. And now they are no longer accepting applications. sigh :(
 
Darn!!! I missed this too! Spending too much time in the mod forum or playing "History in the Making" I guess. I would post several frowning emoticons but it still doesn't capture how sad I am.
 
Yes, I haven't played it for years, but I don't remember Col providing cultural or diplomatic victory conditions. I assume these would be included in any remake, as they're standard in Civ now. Would really improve the game, too.

Maybe it's just the 'narrower focus' that has caused Col to be ignored. Slavery was virtually ignored in Col (and other strategy games) but is shamelessly in Civ 4.

As you point out, it seems that most if not ALL civilizations are capable of horrendous acts, I guess we feel more guilty about our own Civ:(

Well, the whole point of Colonization was to be the first set of colonies to Declare Independence and survive the War to found your own nation. I'm not sure you could add many other victory conditions to that, without it stop being a game about Founding your own nation and becaming a different game.
 
What I'm saying is that, as far as I know, I don't think they're done choosing yet. So don't lose all hopes yet.

Any news on the test?
 
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