Bias in the Media redux

[Bill3000]

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

 

[Neomega]

To all liberals: Sit down and watch 10 minutes of CBS, CNN, Catie Couric, Matt Louer, Dan Rather or Geraldo and tell me the media isn't liberally biased. The bs methods they use are even biased. I was so pissed having to watch CBS bullcrap at the airport. I was bookless and moneyless, so that was my only "entertainment".

No they aren't.

The question for Iraq was not "Would Saddam use his WMD's against America?", the question was "Does Saddam have WMD's?"

there is a very important distinction here. One asks if it is of our concern, and the other implies it is.

In almost all "debate" the question is framed in terms of win-win for the American government.

 

[Atlas14]

I have watched hours of the above sources and many have often given the current administration's talking points without critical evaluation and without presenting the obvious counterpoints. In particular, Ms. Couric, the morning shows, CNN, and Geraldo, of those that you mention.

Often it is subtle; I noticed when they were blabbering on about the Immigration Bill for hours and hours while my flight was being delayed, CBS interviewed about 3-4 people, all in favor of the bill. What kind of fair, unbiased crap is this? The LEAST they could do is interview people of the obvious opposite viewpoint of theirs.

Then, to dig their hole deeper, the actual CBS guys were giving their own input about why the Bill should be passed and what not.

See, although Fox News is heavily conservative in their bias, they at least interview considerable amounts of people of their opposing viewpoint on hit issues.

 

[Phlegmak]

The day Phlegmak post a thread about how he was wrong about Bill O and that he now loves the guy is the day I expect armageddon to happen.

You've got to be out of your mind. Why should I love a liar? And you think I hate him for no reason? Good lord, you're mentally ill.
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[C~G]

See, although Fox News is heavily conservative in their bias, they at least interview considerable amounts of people of their opposing viewpoint on hit issues.

You mean like when their commentators talk over political candidates with opposing views or yell on studio someone that doesn't agree with them.

 

[thenooblet22]

MobBoss, to me you lost all of credibility for supporting Fox News over Msnbc

 

[Phlegmak]

See, although Fox News is heavily conservative in their bias, they at least interview considerable amounts of people of their opposing viewpoint on hit issues.

Hey, this came up in Outfoxed. The "opposing viewpoint" people they typically get on their show are either weak or nutjobs. They once had some communists on their show that said the whole world should be a communist world.

 

[MobBoss]

MobBoss, to me you lost all of credibility for supporting Fox News over Msnbc

One. Who cares what you think. Two. I am not in the habit of watching a lot of tv, in fact I gurantee that Phelgmak watches more Bill O'Rielly than I do. Three. Where in this thread did I state I supported Fox news over MSNBC?

 

[Phlegmak]

I gurantee that Phelgmak watches more Bill O'Rielly than I do.

You failed right there. And if it was true, how does that change the fact that you're incapable of realizing that Bill O'Reilly is a liar? And how in the world can you guarantee that I watch more of him than you do? You yourself said you watch him a lot. I've only seen video clips of him.

 

[JollyRoger]

Often it is subtle; I noticed when they were blabbering on about the Immigration Bill for hours and hours while my flight was being delayed, CBS interviewed about 3-4 people, all in favor of the bill. What kind of fair, unbiased crap is this? The LEAST they could do is interview people of the obvious opposite viewpoint of theirs.

Then, to dig their hole deeper, the actual CBS guys were giving their own input about why the Bill should be passed and what not.

See, although Fox News is heavily conservative in their bias, they at least interview considerable amounts of people of their opposing viewpoint on hit issues.

MSNBC, an allegedly liberal network spent 7 hours one day last week covering the immigration issue to some extent in each of the 7 hours. Of the invited commentators, all were conservative and touting the anti-immigration line. There must be something very subtle there that I am missing.

 

[thenooblet22]

One. Who cares what you think.

Is that your new slogan for the Republican Party? I honestly set him up for that, hehe.

 

[MobBoss]

Is that your new slogan for the Republican Party? I honestly set him up for that, hehe.

Well, seeing as how I am not in charge of that....no. and you give yourself waaaay too much credit

 

[MobBoss]

You failed right there.

Hardly....unlike you, I am not obsessed with the man. Hell, I havent seen a Bill O segment in around 9 months...most of what I see of him is what you link from youtube!

And if it was true

It is.

how does that change the fact that you're incapable of realizing that Bill O'Reilly is a liar?

Incapable? Lets just say....I dont care. Since I am not tottally absorbed by the man, I could give a crap whether he simply mis-speaks or outright flagrantly lies to the public on his show. All I have ever said is that the few times I have ever, ever seen him, I have not seen him to lie. And apparently thats just too much credit for the man for you to handle.

And how in the world can you guarantee that I watch of him than you do? You yourself said you watch him a lot. I've only seen video clips of him.

I have never said I watch him a lot. Never. Hell, I dont watch enough tv to honestly say I watch him a lot. Also, you might not realize it...but watching video clips of Bill O is kind of....watching him...you know?

Funny, funny stuff.

 

[brennan]

Criticism of our leaders is a sign of healthy democracy... you like democracy, right?

 

[Phlegmak]

Hardly....unlike you, I am not obsessed with the man. Hell, I havent seen a Bill O segment in around 9 months...most of what I see of him is what you link from youtube!

Obsessed! That's a good one. You're wrong again. Disliking liars isn't an obsession.

Incapable? Lets just say....I dont care. Since I am not tottally absorbed by the man, I could give a crap whether he simply mis-speaks or outright flagrantly lies to the public on his show.

Finally, you say something that's not intellectually dishonest. You don't care if he lies. Ok, I can live with that. Even though it's outrageously foolish of you. You like him and you don't care if he lies. Fine.

All I have ever said is that the few times I have ever, ever seen him, I have not seen him to lie.

Ok, once again, for the 50th time, how the hell do you know he's not lying? I have given you PROOF of him lying and you have outright stated that you REFUSED TO WATCH IT.

I have never said I watch him a lot. Never. Hell, I dont watch enough tv to honestly say I watch him a lot.

Maybe not a lot, but you've stated you've watched him enough to "know" he's not lying.

Also, you might not realize it...but watching video clips of Bill O is kind of....watching him...you know?

Funny, funny stuff.

This is a common tactic from you. Willfully misrepresenting what I said. I did indeed miss the word "more" in my original sentence but what I meant was quite clear.

And this entire nonsense of me being obsessed with O'Reilly and saying I watch him more than you does absolutely nothing for this subject. You're just trying to confuse the issue. It's like you've learned some argument tactics from Fox or something.

 

[Neomega]

Obsessed! That's a good one. You're wrong again..... .....argument tactics from Fox or something.

Don't you have needles to stick under your fingernails?

Perhaps some cigarettes to put out on your eyeballs?

 

[MobBoss]

Obsessed! That's a good one. You're wrong again. Disliking liars isn't an obsession.

Now here is another person thats in denial. It has nothing to do with liars, it has to do with you post more about Bill O'Rielly than anyone else on this forum. Period.

Finally, you say something that's not intellectually dishonest. You don't care if he lies. Ok, I can live with that.

Let me clarify that even further. I dont care that YOU care that he lies. Because we will most certainly disagree on a lot of that. In some cases I feel the man merely mispeaks like all talk show hosts do on occasion. You would call it a blatent and purposeful lie. Thats where we disagree.

Even though it's outrageously foolish of you. You like him and you don't care if he lies. Fine.

Like him? I suppose. Watch him nightly? No. Not even weekly or even monthly.

Ok, once again, for the 50th time, how the hell do you know he's not lying? I have given you PROOF of him lying and you have outright stated that you REFUSED TO WATCH IT.

How do you know he isnt merely mispeaking or just making a simple mistake?

Maybe not a lot, but you've stated you've watched him enough to "know" he's not lying.

No...I said that the times I have seen him I havent witnessed any lying. So the guy mispeaks a handfull of times over years and years doing his show. Big whoopee. Hell, Rosie O'Donnell told more freaking lies on the View in a single season than Bill O does in a single year. All a matter of perspective I guess.

And this entire nonsense of me being obsessed with O'Reilly and saying I watch him more than you does absolutely nothing for this subject. You're just trying to confuse the issue. It's like you've learned some argument tactics from Fox or something.

 

[GenMarshall]

Do you think journalists should be banned from donating to political parties due to their nature of their job?

No, Journalist or any person in the media should be banned from donating to political parties. It's their own money and they have the right to do what they want with it.

Is this good evidence that could certainly indicate a heavily left leaning bias in our media today?

I dont see it as good evidence that the media entity leans left in our media, the only evidence that I see are individuals that tend to have a bias. It's the individuals themselves that tend to be biast and part of human nature.

It's not just the left that people tend to lean and become bias towards that spectrum, people also lean to the right and become bias towards that spectrum as well.

 

[MobBoss]

I dont see it as good evidence that the media entity leans left in our media, the only evidence that I see are individuals that tend to have a bias. It's the individuals themselves that tend to be biast and part of human nature.

It's not just the left that people tend to lean and become bias towards that spectrum, people also lean to the right and become bias towards that spectrum as well.

Huh?

Let me see if I can make sense of this. If you do understand that if 9 out of 10 individuals that control the media have a left bias then how can you make the arguement that it leans both right and left equally?

I mean come on. It is statements like these from you that makes me think if 'good evidence' fell out of the sky, hit your face and wiggled you still wouldnt think its good evidence.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

Is it possible to be a non-bias journalist if you are donating to either political party? I hardly think so. Do you think journalists should be banned from donating to political parties due to their nature of their job?

oh yes they should.

the state should be the journalist's nannies.

edit: forgot the to imply my sarcasm.