What is an FPK? I guess I should go back and read this entire thread LOL. I'm being too lazy...
EDIT: Went back and read last few pages of thread: seems there is no consistent solution to this problem?
black tiles in C2C
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What is an FPK? I guess I should go back and read this entire thread LOL. I'm being too lazy...
EDIT: Went back and read last few pages of thread: seems there is no consistent solution to this problem?
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
What is an FPK? I guess I should go back and read this entire thread LOL. I'm being too lazy...
EDIT: Went back and read last few pages of thread: seems there is no consistent solution to this problem?
Without this i would have the BT all the time also, follow this and see what happens?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=11734721&postcount=113
Ha that seems like a rather convoluted solution. Repair .Net4 four times while doing some other voodoo actions in between repairs? LOL
But what I did just do is: 1) repaired .Net4, 2) reupdated my catalasyt control center, 3) deleted the log/custom assets files (actually the entire BeyondTheSword directory in my documents/games folder), and 4) deleted the C2C mod.
Now before I reinstall C2C again I did have a couple questions to make sure I don't screw it up:
1) Can I change the installed directory to "Caveman2Cosmos" instead of what looks to be the default of "Caveman2Cosmost v25" ?
2) Can I then install the extra leaderheads or should I not bother?
I really want to get this working again...
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
1. Definitely, should only EVER read: Caveman2Cosmos
2. First see if it works ok, then maybe in a few days or even 1 if everything is working ok, then TRY the LH's no guarantee on those ok.
Don't seem to be getting the black tiles anymore (crossing fingers it lasts, not going to bother installing the LHs this time) but I'm still getting graphical quirkiness with the "toggle resource display" feature. Approximately every other time I play it seems to work exactly fine (has the overlay of the graphics/pointers to all the resources on the map) but approximately half the time it only shows a few resource types while the rest of the resources are not highighted at all.
This happens almost exactly every other time I play. In fact it is to the point that if they aren't showing correctly I immediately quit and reload the game and it works fine again. So not a catosraphic issue, but I'm wondering if it is related to the black tile issue somehow?
Probably not related. However, instead of quitting, simply zoom out to the world map and check "all". It happens once in great while to me as well.
Thanks, that seems to work as well. Easier than quitting and reloading...
Jeystone
Chieftain
Just had e weird Black Terrain bug
On a fresh install on win 7 64 bit and civ, c2c started a game and played no problem for about 50 turns.
Switched off and lived my real life for a while and when I reload the save game Black Terrain.
Also Black terrain with a new game.
Bit the bullet and am now re-install win vista 32 bit. still updating at the mo so need to re-install civ. bts and c2c. will report back later.
1 Question tho.
Why does csc folder have to be c2c and not c2c v xx and how to please??
Thanks
On a fresh install on win 7 64 bit and civ, c2c started a game and played no problem for about 50 turns.
Switched off and lived my real life for a while and when I reload the save game Black Terrain.
Also Black terrain with a new game.
Bit the bullet and am now re-install win vista 32 bit. still updating at the mo so need to re-install civ. bts and c2c. will report back later.
1 Question tho.
Why does csc folder have to be c2c and not c2c v xx and how to please??
Thanks
It doesn't. The folder name and ini file have to match, but that's it. In fact, in the past I've had several versions installed at the same time without problems**, and the only way to do so is rename the folders. Some mods don't like this however (RiFE is the big one that immediately springs to my mind).
To be on the safe side (plus to provide compatibility with others that may want to test a save you upload), it is recommended you remove/rename any ini (such as c2c.ini or Caveman2cosmos25.ini) files to Caveman2Cosmos.ini*, and name the folder that as well. If there already is a file called that, remove the other ini files (except for Caveman2Cosmos Config.ini). It probably won't hurt to have the extra files, but it doesn't help either.
*I like to be anal as well as make sure the mod name entry in the file itself matches as well---sometimes it doesn't
**EDIT2---and of course I get cocky and it screws up---I just tried with 2 versions and the black tiles return. Keeping both 3457 and 3495 while trying to load 3495 gave me the black tiles. Deleting 3457 (and the cache just to be safe) fixed it.
I found that after updating the SVN (which I usually do on the weekends as I don't have time to play during the week), I would load a saved game and would have the black terrain.
Cleaning out the cache and user files always worked - until I updated this morning to version 3553 of the SVN.
Now, the tricks do not work and even if I try to start a brand new game, the terrain is black. I'm going to try cold booting again and we'll see if it is just a memory issue.
UPDATE: The cold boot worked! I did that and cleaned out all the cache and user files and no more black terrain. Weird - wish there was a way to clear the memory in your graphics card (I have a Radeon 5850 card).
Cleaning out the cache and user files always worked - until I updated this morning to version 3553 of the SVN.
Now, the tricks do not work and even if I try to start a brand new game, the terrain is black. I'm going to try cold booting again and we'll see if it is just a memory issue.
UPDATE: The cold boot worked! I did that and cleaned out all the cache and user files and no more black terrain. Weird - wish there was a way to clear the memory in your graphics card (I have a Radeon 5850 card).
I was having no problems until SVN3553 (the one right after the version change) and all of a sudden they happen every time now. The only way to clear it is start the mod (from the main menu, a save game won't work), when the mod loads go to desktop (minimizing the game) and clear the cache, and then start a new game or a saved game. It is a work-around that works every time, but an annoying one (since it takes longer) and one that makes me wonder what happened between SVN3516 (the most recent version I had before the new ones) and SVN3553.
EDIT---I deleted svn3553 (since it seems the release version26 is buggy, so I want an archive of a more stable version) and my working copy is now SVN3564, but I haven't had a chance to see if it does the same thing and need to go to work soon so will check later.
EDIT2---now I'm completely puzzled. 3564 has no problems at all (even with no prep work), and looking at the logs what was changed between that and 3553 shouldn't make any difference in graphics. I thought my UserSettings folder may have been what was causing problems in 3553, so deleted that in 3564 as a test, but even putting back in the same files from 3516 causes no problems with 3564. Logically, there is no reason why 3516 and 3564 work with no graphics problems at all but 3553 doesn't.
As a side note, I did notice that every time I loaded a save game with the old user settings it asked me to recalculate, even on new saves. Something seems wrong there.
EDIT---I deleted svn3553 (since it seems the release version26 is buggy, so I want an archive of a more stable version) and my working copy is now SVN3564, but I haven't had a chance to see if it does the same thing and need to go to work soon so will check later.
EDIT2---now I'm completely puzzled. 3564 has no problems at all (even with no prep work), and looking at the logs what was changed between that and 3553 shouldn't make any difference in graphics. I thought my UserSettings folder may have been what was causing problems in 3553, so deleted that in 3564 as a test, but even putting back in the same files from 3516 causes no problems with 3564. Logically, there is no reason why 3516 and 3564 work with no graphics problems at all but 3553 doesn't.
As a side note, I did notice that every time I loaded a save game with the old user settings it asked me to recalculate, even on new saves. Something seems wrong there.
Just updated to SVN version 3573 and sure enough, when I loaded a saved game I had the black tiles. Cleared all the caches and user file folders, cold booted and loaded the saved game again but still had the black tiles.
I then tried your trick of starting a new game, clearing the cache and loading the saved game and presto - no black tiles! Thanks for the tip!
I then tried your trick of starting a new game, clearing the cache and loading the saved game and presto - no black tiles! Thanks for the tip!
I then tried your trick of starting a new game, clearing the cache and loading the saved game and presto - no black tiles! Thanks for the tip!
Just one more thing for people to try if nothing else works*. It is really puzzling why this mod is the only one out of over 60 that I have installed that does this, and only certain SVN versions (that don't even have any graphics changes) and why some "solutions" work with some versions and not with other versions.
*this must be the third or fourth "tip" I've posted, along with the dozen or so from others
Taxman66
King
I'm playing on an XP machine and recently ran into the black tiles situation. Though it only occured on new games (existing save came up ok). With the starting units appearing on a completely black field.
I wound up resolving the issue, simply by turning viewports off (easy to do even on an old computer on the 1st turn of the game), and reloading the autosave. The Terrain suddenly appeared! I saved the game, then turned viewports back on. Reloaded the save and was good.
I wound up resolving the issue, simply by turning viewports off (easy to do even on an old computer on the 1st turn of the game), and reloading the autosave. The Terrain suddenly appeared! I saved the game, then turned viewports back on. Reloaded the save and was good.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
I just found out what the MAIN problem is about the Black Terrain:
Its the GRAPHICS CARD that is in your PC, ie:
Dont just say i have one of the best, well I do also, infact i have a Dual 5700 ATI series in, brand new, but it must be as in certain cars you get, "A Lemon."
How did i get around to figuring this out:
1. My brand new Dell harddrive broke for the second (2nd) time in 2 years.
2. So i had to replace it with my OLD XP 32 bit PC and with waaaay older graphics card, and actually the graphics looked better with the old XP and it worked each and EVERYTIME i used it EVEN when i turned off the PC completely.
3. I finally got my new Dell back, and had to install everything i could find, (well not everything yet), but i fired up a brand new copy of the SVN of C2C and POOF, "Black Terrain."
4. Which makes me come to the conclusion that it HAS to be the graphics card, whether it be a brand NEW graphics card, or an older one, its just a darn "LEMON." Its the only thing it could be, period.
5. So now i am saying to myself
, what the heck, maybe i should just put in my old graphics card, then i realize i cant, its an AGP port.
6. So what to do, well only actually two things to do, deal with the "Black Terrain" and keep trying to get the darn thing to work properly, OR go out and get a brand new graphics card
sad: mine would be over $500) 
Oh well lemon it is then.
Its the GRAPHICS CARD that is in your PC, ie:
Dont just say i have one of the best, well I do also, infact i have a Dual 5700 ATI series in, brand new, but it must be as in certain cars you get, "A Lemon."
How did i get around to figuring this out:
1. My brand new Dell harddrive broke for the second (2nd) time in 2 years.
2. So i had to replace it with my OLD XP 32 bit PC and with waaaay older graphics card, and actually the graphics looked better with the old XP and it worked each and EVERYTIME i used it EVEN when i turned off the PC completely.
3. I finally got my new Dell back, and had to install everything i could find, (well not everything yet), but i fired up a brand new copy of the SVN of C2C and POOF, "Black Terrain."
4. Which makes me come to the conclusion that it HAS to be the graphics card, whether it be a brand NEW graphics card, or an older one, its just a darn "LEMON."
Its the only thing it could be, period.5. So now i am saying to myself
, what the heck, maybe i should just put in my old graphics card, then i realize i cant, its an AGP port.6. So what to do, well only actually two things to do, deal with the "Black Terrain" and keep trying to get the darn thing to work properly, OR go out and get a brand new graphics card
sad: mine would be over $500) Oh well lemon it is then.
Praetyre
King
I'm getting this issue with the latest SVNs, with or without viewports, logs (my customassets folder is totally empty and always has been), custom leaderheads, rebooting or starting new games on duel maps. My graphics card is a GTX 470.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
I was just reading articles about the 400 series cards infact, and they say they were the (no offense) worst cards ever built, they were no better that the 6800 area stuff that was made.
Again best thing to do it repair your Microsoft Net 4, it really does help.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
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