50-60, it does not count a bunch of other things, but we do not count private American investment either and I know which of those things play out to greater effect over time... I fudging own Samsung and LG stock... so...
It took 7 pages to get to the heart of the matter.
Does this damage my 120 billion vs 10 billion point somehow? and again I'm not here about this argument per se. It is fine that the US finally got around to helping the South Koreans get on their feet. My base link was jsut to point out how silly doing the tit for tat nonsense can be on this level. So, the Soviets helped N. Korea out and supported communist parties in the region and we did the opposite in the south. You know what the Soviets and Chinese didn't do? Level all of South and more of North Korea in an effort to push bomb building and crush unions back in their homelands, while pushing the "freedom loving america" propaganda. All we do is prop up dictators for stock returns it seems to me these days, I jsut thought it was different for a while after WWII.
I thought I posted my intentions up front man, in replies to you actually, and in my first post...
You were most explicit and focused without any distractive details in the post I quoted.
I’m sorry you had to go through this, but I hope you learned something.
Well not learned so much as recalled that my reluctance to put people on ignore can be very annoying sometimes when I find their takes inhuman and repugnant. It is still good for me to read them, so I am not "stuck in my bubble". I was hoping for a boomer on old gen xer might have some insight on why they bought into the narrative of evil soviets so hard... I mean I go back and read and listen to the propaganda and it's so childish in its expressions and so clearly manufactured nonsense looking at it now. I think that it is the twenty-year war on terror propaganda veterancy that makes me look at the Red Scare commuphobia propaganda like it's a bad N. Korean movie trying to emulate Hollywood. It is sad because it has had devastating effects on the planet overall and obviously the nation sin which civil wars got turned into US "police actions". It also was very deleterious here in the mindset of the US and how we personally view labor and capital. It is so brain broken here all the way to the top echelons of power. I've heard more than a few voices calling union organizers "evil" and "anti-american". Which is patently absurd.
I don’t see it as bickering to find the facts as to why the two Koreas are so economically divergent. I don’t think your figures are accurate, but I don’t have the time right now (work day) to look them all up and properly source them.
seems complicated. this is a lot to unpack.
I have very little idea what you are trying to measure here.
Leading edge boomers were born 1946-1950 and didn't graduate from HS until 1964+. The propaganda from the 1950s and early 60s was created by those of the previous two generations and directed at themselves. The Civil Rights movement and Beat generation activists were most pre boomer people. Boomer political action really began with the Vietnam protests and the conservative reaction to those protests. The parents, of Boomers, who fought in WW2 and Korea did not talk about their experiences and WW2 was the main war that was taught in schools. By comparison Korea was just a minor affair. Boomers learned much of their WW2 history from John Wayne movies. Keep in mind that in the 50s and 60s Media consisted of local newspapers, weekly and monthly magazines, radio, newsreels at the movies, 3 TV channels, and Hollywood productions. Radio was mostly music and not news. TV news was 30 minutes on weekday evenings. You only saw World news on theater newsreels when you went to the movies (typically on Saturday mornings) and they were about 10 minutes long.
Irrelevant.
Well you're completely wrong and I proved it.
