BNH04- The Five Sultans Conquest Diety
- Thread starter BigNHuge
- Start date
Pre-turn:
I send the warrior in Deity to Istanbul, as Istanbul is about to grow, and we will have to raise lux. It won't get there in time, but oh well. Deity is almost done with a worker, and can then build a warrior before growth. I traded Germany pottery for ceremonial burial, I hope Big didn't do this on purpose to slow the tech pace. Too late for chop to hurry granary, as it will be done soon.
1. Hello! Did you set warriors to auto-explore? It doesn't really matter, as exploring is the last thing that needs intense MM.
2. Istanbul grows, growth in 5, granary in 3. Almost perfect. Move worker towards cow. Raise lux tax, but I can put it back down as the warrior will arrive in Istanbul next turn.
3. Deity builds worker, and move it to cow. Istanbuls worker moves on cow. Put lux to zero when warrior arrives in Istanbul.
Hamburgs borders expanded. Start on warrior in Deity, due in 5, growth in 10.
4. Worker by Deity irrigates cow, Istanbulian worker mines cow. I haven't played an indusrious civ in a while, sure is nice.
5. Granary done in Istanbul. Start on settler, growth in 2, settler due in 6.
6. Move explorers, and discover yet another horse.
7. Istanbul grows. Adjust citizens so it grows in 2 and settler is complete in 3. Adjust lux tax to 10%. Worker done with irrigating by Deity, and make it start roading.
8. Warrior done in Deity, start on barracks. Worker finishes mining cow, and starts roading it.
9. Istanbul grows, settler next turn. Adjust lux tax again. Deityan worker finishes road, and moves to river plains close to Istanbul. Exploring warrior discovers a nearby BG!!!![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
10. Settler done, move it SE. Even though it's not the best position, I want to get it before Germany. Move worker to connect cow road to Istanbul for easy passage. Lower lux tax to 0% while Istanbul is at size 3. Don't forget to raise it next turn.
Will have save and screenie soon.
Some questions:
What are our war plans for Germany? Horse rush? How early? What improvements do we want before attacking? How many workers?
City spacing. I've got a CXXXC dot map. Should we consider ICSing on the tundra, since they can only work two tiles until harbors, and those will require cash rushing. We might as well take the extra free unit support.
Research plans? GL? Self-research, buying, trading, stealing, etc. Will we not research until we've defeated Germany and have a large republic?
Government? This corresponds with research. Should we wait till monarchy before attacking? Will we attack in despotism then go to republic once we're big? Always monarchy as our goal is conquest? To have monarchy be effiecient, we need to almost always be warring to get the land to fund our commerce bonusless research?
Not planning these decisions is one of the reasons I struggle on Deity.
I send the warrior in Deity to Istanbul, as Istanbul is about to grow, and we will have to raise lux. It won't get there in time, but oh well. Deity is almost done with a worker, and can then build a warrior before growth. I traded Germany pottery for ceremonial burial, I hope Big didn't do this on purpose to slow the tech pace. Too late for chop to hurry granary, as it will be done soon.
1. Hello! Did you set warriors to auto-explore? It doesn't really matter, as exploring is the last thing that needs intense MM.
2. Istanbul grows, growth in 5, granary in 3. Almost perfect. Move worker towards cow. Raise lux tax, but I can put it back down as the warrior will arrive in Istanbul next turn.
3. Deity builds worker, and move it to cow. Istanbuls worker moves on cow. Put lux to zero when warrior arrives in Istanbul.
Hamburgs borders expanded. Start on warrior in Deity, due in 5, growth in 10.4. Worker by Deity irrigates cow, Istanbulian worker mines cow. I haven't played an indusrious civ in a while, sure is nice.
5. Granary done in Istanbul. Start on settler, growth in 2, settler due in 6.
6. Move explorers, and discover yet another horse.
7. Istanbul grows. Adjust citizens so it grows in 2 and settler is complete in 3. Adjust lux tax to 10%. Worker done with irrigating by Deity, and make it start roading.
8. Warrior done in Deity, start on barracks. Worker finishes mining cow, and starts roading it.
9. Istanbul grows, settler next turn. Adjust lux tax again. Deityan worker finishes road, and moves to river plains close to Istanbul. Exploring warrior discovers a nearby BG!!!
10. Settler done, move it SE. Even though it's not the best position, I want to get it before Germany. Move worker to connect cow road to Istanbul for easy passage. Lower lux tax to 0% while Istanbul is at size 3. Don't forget to raise it next turn.
Will have save and screenie soon.
Some questions:
What are our war plans for Germany? Horse rush? How early? What improvements do we want before attacking? How many workers?
City spacing. I've got a CXXXC dot map. Should we consider ICSing on the tundra, since they can only work two tiles until harbors, and those will require cash rushing. We might as well take the extra free unit support.
Research plans? GL? Self-research, buying, trading, stealing, etc. Will we not research until we've defeated Germany and have a large republic?
Government? This corresponds with research. Should we wait till monarchy before attacking? Will we attack in despotism then go to republic once we're big? Always monarchy as our goal is conquest? To have monarchy be effiecient, we need to almost always be warring to get the land to fund our commerce bonusless research?
Not planning these decisions is one of the reasons I struggle on Deity.
Save
Preturn 2150BC:
Turn off lux
Don't like the min research but keep it
Turn 1 2110BC:
Lux to 10
Turn 2 2070BC:
Following the only dot map advailable found Bursa
Turn 3 2030BC:
Lux to 20
Turn 4 1990BC:
Istanbul Settler->Settler
Lux 0
Settler heading for eastern horse
Turn 6 1910BC:
Lux to 10
Turn 7 1870BC:
Following dot map found Iznik taking the eastern horse
Turn 8 1830BC:
Lux to 20
Turn 9 1790BC:
Istanbul Settler->Settler
Diety Barrack->Spear
Sending settler to claim northern horses
Notes:
Not much exploring, just tried to keep the cities occupied, once Diety gets those vet spears out send the regs west
Minimum research was a bad idea, the ai will just demand it away, once we meet someone else we should trade for IW
Settler planning to go 1 more north
Before the next player goes we need more direction
Preturn 2150BC:
Turn off lux
Don't like the min research but keep it
Turn 1 2110BC:
Lux to 10
Turn 2 2070BC:
Following the only dot map advailable found Bursa
Turn 3 2030BC:
Lux to 20
Turn 4 1990BC:
Istanbul Settler->Settler
Lux 0
Settler heading for eastern horse
Turn 6 1910BC:
Lux to 10
Turn 7 1870BC:
Following dot map found Iznik taking the eastern horse
Turn 8 1830BC:
Lux to 20
Turn 9 1790BC:
Istanbul Settler->Settler
Diety Barrack->Spear
Sending settler to claim northern horses
Notes:
Not much exploring, just tried to keep the cities occupied, once Diety gets those vet spears out send the regs west
Minimum research was a bad idea, the ai will just demand it away, once we meet someone else we should trade for IW
Settler planning to go 1 more north
Before the next player goes we need more direction
Bigfoot
Emperor
Own, it looks like your 3 food per citizen game is a non-starter. If that game is not going forward I would like to join this one, assuming you still have room.
Bigfoot
Emperor
Thanks BNH, go ahead and slot me in. I am in California (PST).
for bigfoot.
Bigfoot
Emperor
***Got it!***
Bigfoot
Emperor
BNH04 1750BC
- 242G, +10gpt, IW in 19.
- Germany is up Alpha, WC, IW and Myst. No other contacts.
- 1 settler, 2 workers, 5 warriors.
- Turn lux. to 10% to get +12gpt, no other changes.
T1 1725:
- Move settler N to the spot by the horse.
- Worker finishes BG, team up the 2 workers (get 1 turn roads that way).
<IBT: Bursa walls => rax.>
T2 1700:
- Uskadar founded (worker).
- Up lux. to keep Istanbul from rioting (settler next turn).
<IBT: Istanbul settler => settler; Dutch build Colossus.>
T3 1675:
- Settler is headed N. to the spot by the 2 games & cow.
- Turn lux. back down.
<IBT: Diety spear => spear.>
T4 1650:
- Send warrior from Diety to start uncovering fog to the west. We need to make more contacts!
T5: 1625:
- See sugar W. of Diety.
T6 1600:
- Up lux. rate again.
<IBT: Istanbul settler => settler; Iznik walls => rax.>
T7 1575:
- Settler headed to site west of Istanbul.
- Found Izmit.
- Lux. back to 10%.
<IBT: horses are connected; Diety spear => spear (I want at least one vet spear in each border town before pumping out chariots).>
T8 1550:
- Moving a vet. Spear toward Bursa.
- Workers move to chop forest to speed the rax building in Iznik.
- Settler to dot W. of Istanbul.
T9 1525:
- Aydin founded.
T10 1500:
- Move lux. back to 20%
Recap:
- 376G, +17gpt; IW in 9.
- Our forces: 2 spears, 5 warriors, 2 workers.
- The border cities are starting to produce vet military units now. The regular warrior near Diety can head west to uncover more fog and get us some contacts.
- My suggestion is that we build the Great Library in Izmit. There are 4 seafaring civs out there and we only have 1 contact, so doubtless we are well behind on techs already.
- We will need lots more workers to keep up with the settler factory and to pump up our GL city.
- 242G, +10gpt, IW in 19.
- Germany is up Alpha, WC, IW and Myst. No other contacts.
- 1 settler, 2 workers, 5 warriors.
- Turn lux. to 10% to get +12gpt, no other changes.
T1 1725:
- Move settler N to the spot by the horse.
- Worker finishes BG, team up the 2 workers (get 1 turn roads that way).
<IBT: Bursa walls => rax.>
T2 1700:
- Uskadar founded (worker).
- Up lux. to keep Istanbul from rioting (settler next turn).
<IBT: Istanbul settler => settler; Dutch build Colossus.>
T3 1675:
- Settler is headed N. to the spot by the 2 games & cow.
- Turn lux. back down.
<IBT: Diety spear => spear.>
T4 1650:
- Send warrior from Diety to start uncovering fog to the west. We need to make more contacts!
T5: 1625:
- See sugar W. of Diety.
T6 1600:
- Up lux. rate again.
<IBT: Istanbul settler => settler; Iznik walls => rax.>
T7 1575:
- Settler headed to site west of Istanbul.
- Found Izmit.
- Lux. back to 10%.
<IBT: horses are connected; Diety spear => spear (I want at least one vet spear in each border town before pumping out chariots).>
T8 1550:
- Moving a vet. Spear toward Bursa.
- Workers move to chop forest to speed the rax building in Iznik.
- Settler to dot W. of Istanbul.
T9 1525:
- Aydin founded.
T10 1500:
- Move lux. back to 20%
Recap:
- 376G, +17gpt; IW in 9.
- Our forces: 2 spears, 5 warriors, 2 workers.
- The border cities are starting to produce vet military units now. The regular warrior near Diety can head west to uncover more fog and get us some contacts.
- My suggestion is that we build the Great Library in Izmit. There are 4 seafaring civs out there and we only have 1 contact, so doubtless we are well behind on techs already.
- We will need lots more workers to keep up with the settler factory and to pump up our GL city.
