"Brave New World"- alternate WWII scn.

[King Coltrane]

I have to say, i find this scenario HUGELY enjoyable, even if waiting can get a bit long during Japan's turn when it is invading india. Ok, so i played as america, not a whole game but a long enough time. So heres what i think. You have somehow captured the naval aspect REALLY well in this. I find my carrier groups travelling together and using f-15s to scout first, tehn bombers to pound enemy cities/ships. First comment though is that the capitols need to be worked out. Japan's capitol is in Central China? Germany's is Vichy? What i would suggest is that you create a few new buildings "British domination" "French Domination" "Chinese Domination" etc that act like forbidden palaces to reduce corruption, as i think this is what you were getting at and maybe have each of these produce a certain kind of unit every so often. Next thing: more wonders! LOTS more! lets have some factory type wonders that produce units, production, defense, etc. i want to see germany pumping out ME-262s from their cities! BUT i think there should be an expanded tech tree to track the progress of your version of the fantasy war. for now though, i would move mech inf and jet fighters to later techs, say integrated defense and smart weapons, respectively, to keep the fighters and infantry in the game longer, plus it will be more dynamic, since it will be easier to take cities. (let me tell you, my invasion of mainland england was rough. i landed 20 tanks, and 10 mech inf. escorted by 3 carrier groups +2 battleships and 5 cruisers. I pounded plymouth into submission and due to lack of marines, i just landed my substantial force. I was beaten back so badly that i only had 4 tanks, each with ONE hp left, with which to take the city. though i did this, i couldnt continue the offensive and was forced to try again much later)

Ok, im rambling a bit, but if you would be interested in my ideas to help this scenario get better, please ask!
(just for my credentials, i created a substantial part of the mechanics of Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire (RFRE) and worked on Heart of Destiny a lot too)

 

[goodsmell]

how long the scenario loading takes ? with average computer .

 

[Mastreditr111]

Lord Coltrane,
This map is modded from another, so I must have left multiple palaces when i shuffled territory in the editor, and the " newest" palace becomes the capital. I will have to fix that eventually, but Im working on another scn. As for your invasion of England, idk, but i got butchered there playing as Free British when I hit it as well. I ultimately did a tech blitz to get nuclear subs and tactical nukes then parked about 10 off the European coast (BOOM), then followed with an even bigger invasion. Also, as for your suggestions, they seem very good, actually many of them had occured to me, but i dont really kno how to implement any of them. I havent enlisted a unit designer, and dont know how to integrate them in any case. If you would want to get a group together to fiddle with the tech tree while I make an upgraded map, it would be welcome, but otherwise i doubt ill ever get to it.

 

[Mastreditr111]

loading time.... shouldnt be very long, as there are no techs or anything like that to download. Im not sure beyond that.

 

[goodsmell]

ohh I tried yesterday , and it takes very long time !
I waited at least 30minutes even more , and it did'nt finish .
it showed me the message that some country building some wonder but nothing else ..

I guess I'll turn it for loading tonight and check if the turns taking too much time too ( if so I won't have the opportunity to play this )

 

[Mastreditr111]

uh idk it didnt do that when I was playing. Some load times were long, especially when the Japanese and Germans were first mobilizing to attack India and the Free French, but never that bad

 

[Mastreditr111]

wats ur computer's performance?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

The next version ought to have new units/tech tree/civilopedia to go with it, so we can focus more on the immediate post-war time period, as opposed to having only a era and a half to work we you we can have four, and all those units nobody can use ie phalanx etc etc cna be replaced with other tanks, jets, DDs. you get my point, right? If you need any help, as I know you're realtively new to the mod world (and dont get me wrong, i think this scenario is absolutely wonderful, but an artist's work is never done ) feel free to ask around, we'll point you in the right direction/help you out!

 

[King Coltrane]

this week(end) ill try putting something together for you in terms of a tech tree, unit additions, wonders, and some other stuff ill come up with. tell me if there is anything in particular you would want in there that i can put together for you.

again, lots of fun and im sure we can make this great scn even better

 

[conquer_dude]

Find some units.

I can get some techs if you want. Just tell me what.

 

[Mastreditr111]

ok this sounds great. im working on a new map, from a blank world. finished city placement, working now on culture. as for techs i honestly dont know. units.... M48 and M60 Patton tanks for America... idk maybe if someone can find a Tiger tank as an upgrade for the Panzer... F86 is a must for the US, as well as some kind of jet that looks like it evolved from the ME series. also, i have to import the Nipponese infantry and atomic bomb units from the WWII in the Pacific scn in Conquests. will post more as i get ideas.

 

[goodsmell]

I think you can use the world map that Rocoteh used in his WW2 Global . I forgot who made that map , But I'm sure if you Rocoteh he'll help you .
about the Culture , in Central cities and Capitols you can enter high Culture . in cities in Africa that less common , just enter a Culture for expanding .
hmm is Israel included ? if so you can add Markeva , add a Great Wonder that auto-produces "Duvdevan Division" or "Givati Division" . you can also add an Artillery katushya it's very common in Israel . If you need more , I can find more info since my friends are now in Army ( in israel of course ) .

 

[King Coltrane]

can you post the map and maybe list the included civs? thatll make it easier to work from.

 

[goodsmell]

I would really thanks if anybody will post few saves :

great Britain on EMPEROR
USA on EMPEROR
and I don't remmember I think Germany is included , so Germany too on EMPEROR

 

[Mastreditr111]

ok i can post the map that i have so far, i basically designed it from a blank world, so im not entirely sure about the geography. unfortunately, a few things have come up, and I really dont have alot of free time to work on it. if anyone wants to try to complete it (infrastructure, unit placement, remaining culture, city placement in Pacific Ocean) using the old scn as a guide, they are welcome to work on it, but i cant, at least for a while.

 

[Mastreditr111]

oh yea, the list of civs is same as before, only now they are modifyed from civs in original civ3, cause the map was originally civ3 format
Nation- Based on
Italy- Rome
Turkey/Iraq/Arabia- Egypt
Spain/Portugal- Greece
North Britain- Babylon
Third Reich- Germany
Gorky Russia- Russia
China- China
UPNA- America
Empire of the Rising Sun- Japan
Free French Federation- France
Brazil/Venezuela/Columbia- India
Iran- Persia
Mexico- Aztecs
Argentina/Chile- Iroquois
Independent British Commonwealth- England

 

[goodsmell]

I would like if you change Russia's city placement or anyone else , I won't do it because it's not my buisness I don't know how etc ...
but Minsk is Capitol of Bellorussia and it's located eastern ..

 

[tag427]

Dear Mast --Took me a while to get back to you guys --I bought the morrowind comp pack but I am ready to try again to get Brave new world running--Will try again detail where the problems begin--I am really dying to play this scenario!!

 

[tag427]

Now I got going well done Mast

 

[Mastreditr111]

ok not as busy as i thought... have had some time to work on the map, though i am balancing it with another alt history scn