Bryan Johnson

[Plains-Cow]

Guy makes me think of the quote. The future is already here it's just not evenly disturbed.

LMAO just started watching your video, and I remembered those other vids shown where he brags about all his hair treatments and creams and needling and red-light helmets, but he's obviously combing it all over in the back and you can see how much he's been balding anyway.

 

[Farm Boy]

Psch. That's just barely in "wear a hat to work outside so you don't burn the back of your head" mode. Some guys look like that at 22!

 

[Plains-Cow]

Psch. That's just barely in "wear a hat to work outside so you don't burn the back of your head" mode. Some guys look like that at 22!

Check him out in profile in the video. It's even stranger. It's like someone chopped off the back half of his head where his skull is supposed to be and now it's flat. He fluffs up his hair a lot. Plus, looking at the blood sharing (ew) video, his father is in it, and he has the same balding style from the back with some hair still up front. Brian's "protocol" doesn't seem to be saving his hair, even with his son's regular plasma infusions.

 

[Farm Boy]

Self improvement is always sort of masterbatory. I still floof my beard. Not proud enough to dye the grey out, but vain enough to comb in a hair simulated jawline that I don't have. Got the idea from the Duke Atredies guy in the current Dune movies. He probably still has the jawline along with the makeup artists and post production, tho!

 

[Narz]

Guy's the embodiment of "I don't believe in God, but I'm also terrified of the void."

It's only rational, no? We know we're alive now, so may as well max out this experience as there's no reason to assume we'll ever get another chance.

 

[Narz]

Check him out in profile in the video. It's even stranger. It's like someone chopped off the back half of his head where his skull is supposed to be and now it's flat. He fluffs up his hair a lot.

Who among us lacks vanity?

 

[Plains-Cow]

Self improvement is always sort of masterbatory. I still floof my beard. Not proud enough to dye the grey out, but vain enough to comb in a hair simulated jawline that I don't have. Got the idea from the Duke Atredies guy in the current Dune movies. He probably still has the jawline along with the makeup artists and post production, tho!

I feel like beards are the new jawlines for a lot of guys. Not saying you have a bad one, of course.

Who among us lacks vanity?

I don't sell services or speaking engagements showing off my "proven methods" I've spent millions of dollars on in an attempt to regrow hair or do other de-aging stuff that clearly isn't working. The humor to me isn't in the vanity, it's in the insistence that his million-dollar methodology is working when he's on the way to developing the exact same balding look as his father. He takes over 60 pills a day, has a six-figure bedroom HVAC system, and a redlight helmet for hair growth.

He says he loves life, but to me it just looks like he fears death, and aging is the superficial reminder of that whispering into his ear that he's only a mortal.

 

[Narz]

I've spent millions of dollars on in an attempt to regrow hair or do other de-aging stuff that clearly isn't working.

He admits the hair growth stuff isnt all that effective.

It's also least important really. Some of the other stuff seems to be working

He says he loves life, but to me it just looks like he fears death

Everyone fears death.

Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Farm Boy]

I feel like beards are the new jawlines for a lot of guys. Not saying you have a bad one, of course.

Well yes. It's intentionally changing the shape of my face, lol.

 

[Plains-Cow]

He admits the hair growth stuff isnt all that effective.

It's also least important really. Some of the other stuff seems to be working


Everyone fears death.

Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

What exactly would you say is working well for him? He looks his age, he's lean because of his diet and exercise, etc. I don't think he's doing much better than someone spending far less and living far more. Dude spends 100% of his day not maximizing life but avoiding death.

 

[Narz]

You don't think avoiding death is a good thing?

Also why do you think you're an expert on his internal experience?

As someone who's engaged in cultural norms (drinking, staying up late, overconsumption of all manners) and who's tried to 'maximize life', maximizing life is much more satisfying (even if others are like 'meh it's not even working, he's still f-ed up', it's not really about them)

And if you have the $$ to actually track metrics it's even more satisfying because it softens the criticism of naysayers to actually have results in front of your face.

You can call him egoic or attention seeking or even accuse him of trying to make money (everyone has to make a living) but I don't get hating on people trying to be healthy. I've never understood that (even if I think someone's ideals are foolish I commend anyone who actually wants to take care of themself in a society that is selling you bad habits every millisecond).

 

[Gorbles]

Let's be honest folks, there's no discussion here. It's just a propaganda thread for this rich dude's obsession that's only possible for him because he's rich.

The only acceptable reactions seem to be wonder and appreciation.

 

[Narz]

Let's be honest folks, there's no discussion here. It's just a propaganda thread for this rich dude's obsession that's only possible for him because he's rich.

The only acceptable reactions seem to be wonder and appreciation.

Do you have any discussion to add?

If you'd watched any content there's a lot of hacks that are zero or low cost. He's repeated many times that the main benefits come not from adopting a bunch of high tech treatments but in overcoming bad habits.

The high tech stuff & $3000 bed is cool and yeah I'm envious too but we do what we can.

 

[Gorbles]

Do you have any discussion to add?

I added a bunch a while back, and have been following the thread since. You don't seem to respond positively to any criticism of the guy, nomatter how well-founded, regardless of who posted it. It's not a personal thing, no worries. Just an observation.

He's repeated many times that the main benefits come not from adopting a bunch of high tech treatments but in overcoming bad habits.

And yet he's still done a bunch of costly high-tech treatments. It's easy for someone who has access to these things to be able to make such claims.

 

[Narz]

And yet he's still done a bunch of costly high-tech treatments. It's easy for someone who has access to these things to be able to make such claims.

Wouldn't you do whatever you could for yourself and your family if you had the means?

 

[Gorbles]

Wouldn't you do whatever you could for yourself and your family if you had the means?

Depends on the thing. But this contradicts these things apparently being less necessary than overcoming "bad habits" (which usually come from a particular place of moralisation).

 

[Narz]

But this contradicts these things apparently being less necessary than overcoming "bad habits"

How does it contradict?

There are fitness channels on YouTube that sell supplements and the honest ones will tell you that training, diet and sleep will give you 98% of your results but if you want to buy their preworkout or creatine it might help.

(which usually come from a particular place of moralisation).

I think it's more an issue of people approaching their health from a moralistic standpoint.

I think the "being healthy is boring but I should really force myself" is a big problem and one that Bryan often talks about.

I didn't exercise most of my life because I had the idea it's painful and a chore. I do it now because it's actually very hedonisticly satisfying more than almost anything.

 

[Farm Boy]

Pickleball is fun too!

Requires people to play. Ah, curses. No pickleball.

 

[Gorbles]

How does it contradict?

Because your (maybe his?) claim was that the expensive high-tech stuff wasn't "as important". That's easy for someone like Johnson who has access to these things.

But at the same time, he's not an impartial judge of these things. He has both the time and the money to pursue his personal goals. Most people don't. Most people have to make compromises, sacrifices.

Telling me if I had the means, that I'd do X, is a no brainer. Because everything I do with my time is a series of compromises, because I don't have (comparatively) infinite money compared to a millionaire / billionaire. There are plenty of things I'd like to do, but can't and likely will never be able to.

That's not a choice, or a side-effect of a bad habit. That's the reality under capitalism for all of us have-nots, compared to the minute fraction of humanity that hold most of the money.

And look at what they do with it And we're worried that people on benefits might spend their meagre handouts on the "wrong" choices? Sorry, that's a tangent. My point is that it's all absurd. If some rich dude can pipe his son's blood into himself in an attempt to cultivate youth, why do we have any limits on what regular folk do with their money? Good or bad?

There are fitness channels on YouTube that sell supplements and the honest ones will tell you that training, diet and sleep will give you 98% of your results but if you want to buy their preworkout or creatine it might help.

And? Fitness channels aren't health-obsessed billionaires. It's a completely different set of arguments. Why are we talking about fitness channels? What opinion should I share on them?

I think the "being healthy is boring but I should really force myself" is a big problem and one that Bryan often talks about.

I think the fact that people aren't allowed to have the time to live the lives they want to lead is the problem. Being healthy isn't necessarily boring. But being healthy on a budget is a different story. Being healthy with no free time is a different story. And most people on the planet fit in the categories of "no money" and / or "no time" than they do being concerned with it being "boring".

I didn't exercise most of my life because I had the idea it's painful and a chore. I do it now because it's actually very hedonisticly satisfying more than almost anything.

I've exercised for most of my life to a pretty high (competitive) standard. The past few years everything has gone downhill and I have numerous health issues that are either magically coincidental, or stem from getting Covid.

I can't exercise like I used to anymore, and I'm only 35. Even when I make myself exercise to a level high enough to restore fitness, it doesn't affect my weight.

Too many of us don't have the freedom to rest our bodies and recover from what life has put us through. That's a privilege that those with an overwhelming amount of money fail to relate to, and then some take any insight from these people as truth. The problem isn't bad habits - the problems are structural. And I don't have to have a solution ready to point that out.

 

[Narz]

That's not a choice, or a side-effect of a bad habit. That's the reality under capitalism for all of us have-nots, compared to the minute fraction of humanity that hold most of the money.

And look at what they do with it And we're worried that people on benefits might spend their meagre handouts on the "wrong" choices?

You're vering into structural issues that are beyond the scope of of one individual.

I don't think anyone is saying making the "right" choices are easy.

Homeboy has said in multiple videos that he has a lot of empathy for how driven people feel they have to be in our society and how people are pushed to put profits over their health, how they have to walk or drive past dozens of fast food joints and are pushed to make bad choices when they're already tired.

But we have to do what we can.

I mean would you watch a movie review channel and curse the skies because you don't even have time to watch movies while this SOB gets paid to watch them?

I think the fact that people aren't allowed to have the time to live the lives they want to lead is the problem. Being healthy isn't necessarily boring. But being healthy on a budget is a different story. Being healthy with no free time is a different story. And most people on the planet fit in the categories of "no money" and / or "no time" than they do being concerned with it being "boring

Too many of us don't have the freedom to rest our bodies and recover from what life has put us through. That's a privilege that those with an overwhelming amount of money fail to relate to, and then some take any insight from these people as truth. The problem isn't bad habits - the problems are structural. And I don't have to have a solution ready to point that out.

These are legit points but no reason to fall full on into fatalism.

Like I said I can find myself getting a bit angry at those who give advice that I cannot fully utilize due to whatever constraint (monetary, my location, my emotional stamina, etc) but instead of being resentful I can still think it's cool there are those out there with time & energy to push boundaries and try things.

I don't have the $ to backpack in Bali or dig wells in Africa (nor would I want to with small kids) but it's cool others are doing it and maybe someday I can.