The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
I'm curious as well.
Thankfully, most of the work has been done for both a USSR civ (though I think that's for Warlords) and a Nazi civ (from the man that gave us Road to War.)
[BtS] DIPLOMACY: a mod for Diplogames!
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I'm curious as well.
Thankfully, most of the work has been done for both a USSR civ (though I think that's for Warlords) and a Nazi civ (from the man that gave us Road to War.)
If we are talking about LHs, then the USSR already has Lenin, Stalin and Gorbachёv. There is also a Zhukov LH, but he wasn't a leader of the USSR.
The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
I thought I'd seen USSR units before too... but I may be mistaken.
I know everything already exists for the Nazis, though.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=241619 Gotta love Dwolf's work.
MadmanOfALeader
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If Gorbachev is one of the leaders, then we'd need this as a symbol of the USSR.
The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
If Gorbachev is one of the leaders, then we'd need this as a symbol of the USSR.
With him as my leader, I can finally be free to go to the edge of my pizza.
HAIL GORBY!
MadmanOfALeader
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This diplomacy text is for Vlad Tepes of Romania. He's a kind of closet vampire.
First Contact:
Good evening. I am [CT_NAME] of the [OUR_EMPIRE]. Let us be allies for a long time. However, if you choose to rise up against me I shall drink your blood... y awful-tasting wine and smash the bottles on your head!
Refuse to Talk:
Go away! Er, but don't let the sun hit the room on the way out.
No Peace:
You will see peace when you can see my reflection... I mean, sure, you can see my reflection... but I still say no!
Friendly Greeting:
Good evening, [CT_NAME]. How are you on this marvelously gloomy day?
Annoyed Greeting:
Bleh! You carry the smell of garlic, [CT_NAME]. Are trying to kill me with that stench?
Demand Tribute Weaker:
Do us this favor, [CT_NAME]. The bats are getting antsy and you wouldn't want to mess with them.
Demand Tribute Equal:
If you would like to keep your blood, I suggest you give me this. And no, I would never drink it! That's preposterous!
Demand Tribute Stronger:
Hand this over or be prepared to face the army of the undead... I mean, [CT_CIV_SHORT]!
First Contact:
Good evening. I am [CT_NAME] of the [OUR_EMPIRE]. Let us be allies for a long time. However, if you choose to rise up against me I shall drink your blood... y awful-tasting wine and smash the bottles on your head!
Refuse to Talk:
Go away! Er, but don't let the sun hit the room on the way out.
No Peace:
You will see peace when you can see my reflection... I mean, sure, you can see my reflection... but I still say no!
Friendly Greeting:
Good evening, [CT_NAME]. How are you on this marvelously gloomy day?
Annoyed Greeting:
Bleh! You carry the smell of garlic, [CT_NAME]. Are trying to kill me with that stench?
Demand Tribute Weaker:
Do us this favor, [CT_NAME]. The bats are getting antsy and you wouldn't want to mess with them.
Demand Tribute Equal:
If you would like to keep your blood, I suggest you give me this. And no, I would never drink it! That's preposterous!
Demand Tribute Stronger:
Hand this over or be prepared to face the army of the undead... I mean, [CT_CIV_SHORT]!
The Capo
godless Heathen
It wasn't going to be a "joke" pack but a "just for fun pack." I'm up in the air really as to which civs will make it in, but so far I am thinking;
- Soviet Union
- Nazi Germany (so the player can recreate WW2)
- Atlantis (sort of a "catch-all" Greek mythology civ, with some fantasy units like a minotaur etc.)
- Pirates
Beyond that I haven't really decided on anything yet. This pack will probably not be made for a while so there is plenty of time to discuss it, although at this point it would be a bit premature.
- Soviet Union
- Nazi Germany (so the player can recreate WW2)
- Atlantis (sort of a "catch-all" Greek mythology civ, with some fantasy units like a minotaur etc.)
- Pirates
Beyond that I haven't really decided on anything yet. This pack will probably not be made for a while so there is plenty of time to discuss it, although at this point it would be a bit premature.
Pirates is a great idea. Also, if you're suggesting Atlantis, maybe also a Norse civ with Odin as it's leader. Another suggestion is a Wild West civ, there are already units and a leader. You can think of the craziest stuff for this pack.
The Capo
godless Heathen
While I was checking out some modcomps I could add to the mod I came accross THIS ONE which basically allows unfettered barbarian cities to rise into rival civilizations. The details are there in the link but I think the idea has merit. I always thought unmolested barbarian cities should become civs. I thought something that spawned new civs would be cool, but I didn't want to use the revolution mod becuase it alters the game-mechanics way too much for my purposes.
Let me know what you think of this idea.
Let me know what you think of this idea.
This idea looks nice, the question is- can it work?
And if we're talking about barbarians- how about this idea, I've done it in my game and it looks better in my opinion: I changed the names of the Barbarian cities to actual city names. For example: instead of being called "Kazakh" the city is called "Almata". This way you don't have cities with adjective-names like "Kazakh", "Cherokee" or "Parthian".
The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
I like this idea. It'd make New World maps that much more awesome.
Also, while you're checking out ideas from other modcomps, I've gotta suggest some stuff from Extra.
You've already mentioned adding in the Next War stuff, but what are your thoughts on adding in the land tiles and promotions Extra collected from the various scenarios?
I kinda like training my men to handle desert situations.
It's also kinda neat having a bit more diversity with the resources, at least when it comes to having two important world resources: tobacco and salt.
Besides that... I'd also recommend using John Adams in place of Reagan, but that's just me. Not that I have anything against Reagan, I'd imagine he'll be more fun once we get a USSR civ.
The Capo
godless Heathen
I could potentially add new promotions (like a desert promo for example) but I don't want to add new resources or anything like that. I am trying to maintain a close similarity to the vanilla game mechanics. I think adding new resources may throw off the game a little. But this is all debatable, to make the mod I plan on making is going to take a lot of time and the more discussion that goes into it, in my mind, will result in a better finished product. So I don't want to add new terrain or resources really (although I MIGHT add a new resource for the future era... maybe).
As far as adding John Adams; I am a pretty liberal guy, so adding Reagan was something I didn't really want to to do, but the LH was so good I couldn't resist. Adams is an important historical figure (and I do have his quote in my signature) however I think Reagan is a better choice. There are plenty of other potential leaders for America I could have added, but I think I am just going to leave Reagan as the fourth leader.
Having said that, I might decide on making some new leader module packs. That way you can add other leaders (if you want more than four for certain civs, which will be my limit). So you can have a fifth Roman leader for example.
As far as adding John Adams; I am a pretty liberal guy, so adding Reagan was something I didn't really want to to do, but the LH was so good I couldn't resist. Adams is an important historical figure (and I do have his quote in my signature) however I think Reagan is a better choice. There are plenty of other potential leaders for America I could have added, but I think I am just going to leave Reagan as the fourth leader.
Having said that, I might decide on making some new leader module packs. That way you can add other leaders (if you want more than four for certain civs, which will be my limit). So you can have a fifth Roman leader for example.
The Capo
godless Heathen
I am pretty sure it already does work. There are some issues with it (someone mentioned a war-like new civ was TOO powerful), but I think if we just tweaked it properly it would be fine. And I think a fun addition as TAdF mentioned, especially for Terra maps or uninhabited islands where barbs spawn.
This is definitely a good idea. Consider it done.
Aussie_Lurker
Deity
Hmmm, its a shame the development of Barbarian Civs doesn't follow the model of "Guns, Germs and Steel" (Great Book, btw. If you're a true history buff, it makes a fascinating read). Namely, if the New World has plenty of domesticable plants and animals, then you'll be facing a strong opponent when you get there (assuming they don't come to YOU first 
). Otherwise, defeating them would be as easy as it was for the Europeans in real life.
Aussie.
). Otherwise, defeating them would be as easy as it was for the Europeans in real life.Aussie.
Aussie_Lurker
Deity
Actually, IIRC, TheLopez developed an interesting mod involving impacts of resources on tech research rates. It was done for Warlords, but I assume it could be adapted to BtS. It would require tweaking of when some resources appear, of course, but could be interesting. The way it worked was-for example-if you had access to a source of copper, then you'd research bronze working faster than someone who lacked it. Having Cows, sheep and pigs in your cultural borders would reduce the research time of animal husbandry etc etc.
If you're interested, I think I have the files still, and would be happy to send them to you.
Aussie.
If you're interested, I think I have the files still, and would be happy to send them to you.
Aussie.
The Capo
godless Heathen
That's a good idea, however I don't think I'd like that feature in my mod. It changes the game mechanics too much and removes some strategy from the game, or at least alters it. Plus you wouldn't even know if you had Copper to begin with if you didn't have Bronze working first.
If you want I can give you the city names I used. I gave each Barbarian nation a city name that belongs to them.
The Capo
godless Heathen
I might need a longer list because I am pretty sure I've used some of those barbarians as new civs. But just give me what you have and I can do it myself if you'd rather not bother with it.
Off the top of my head I know I have used the Assyrians, Phoenicians, Minoans. There are probably more.
Off the top of my head I know I have used the Assyrians, Phoenicians, Minoans. There are probably more.
