Bugs3 - The Sid Virgin Sacrifice

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

Agree on the FP next the Market. Not agree with keeping Reims for ever. It simply will steal too many tiles from both the capital and the FP city if we ever reach Hospitals. For that reason, I want the other city in distance 2. As long as Orleans, Reims and that city stay small, the can share the Hills nicely. Reims can focus likely on Military for a long time; once it needs to go, we don't loose a single tile.

I realize this now.. I actually tried to play the save, and delayed the completion of GLib with ONE turn.. result was that rome grabbed it in 710BC instead of us.. so it was very close

That's why I kept preaching to start the prebuild very early, no Settlers or units from Orleans

 

[Gyathaar]

That's why I kept preaching to start the prebuild very early, no Settlers or units from Orleans

This is also why I was in doubt we had time to build temple first and why I joined workers to orleans and consentrated on getting all the hills mined before roading them

As for Reims, I agree it should go if we get to hospitals. Untill then in adition to building military, it also has ok commerse since on a river, built on incense (when we disband it we have to make sure we have a spare incense that we are not trading away..) and low corruption.

 

[grs]

Ok, my last statement on this

If we get hospitals, feel free to abandon it. But hospitals...wow, we have to live that long and then research one of the least needed techs in that aera (steam, industr, rep. parts, maybe nationalism and espionage...). Are you really planing a city location in BCs for the time of hospitals? We can grab the last tiles on our land without overlap if we place 1s. Let's not build a city now for a building we are not even sure we will ever research the tech for, lest even build one.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

actually, if I count correctly, 1 S would grab exactly 1 tile more.
Guess I'm mainly biased for moving Reims since I obsessively prefer SEA Civs, and anything not coastal looks like a mistake for me.

Place the city where you want, it won't matter. But: Found on the Barb Camp first, otherwise corruption in our so-so cities will go up for nothing.

 

[DJMGator13]

Good discussion team.

Orleans finish market, start FP.

Reims can stay in where it is.

Finish off the barbs and settle on barb hill before settling the other city east of Reims.

Make preparations to capture the AZT city on island.

Got it

 

[Sir Bugsy]

So Doc you don't think we can ever self-research? Even with libraries, universities, markets, banks and Stock Exs? I guess that's why I'm a SID virgin.

 

[DJMGator13]

Pretty uneventful turnset

Preturn 550BC
everything looks good

IBT - ROM & IRQ sign a peace treaty

Turn1 - 530BC
we learn Feudalism from GLib
Sell Feudalism to Rome for 90gold and 2 gpt (all they had)
found Dijon (with northern settler - can grab the horse tile for a few turns) set to worker

archer kills a Bhorse then we lose sword attacking the next Bhorse

IBT -

Turn2 - 510BC
archer & horse each kill a Bhorse

IBT - The IRQ have been destroyed

Turn3 - 490BC
Paris Marketplace => MDI
Reims Pike => marketplace
archer redlines but takes out a Bhorse / move a spear to the hill

IBT - Spear dies after defeating 3 Bhorses before being killed by the 4th one

Turn4 - 470BC
Avignon barracks => pike

IBT - Barbs do not attack

Turn5 - 450BC
Lyon galley => pike
Marseilles => MDI
hire taxman in Paris - MDI due in 2 turns
heal archer

IBT

Turn6 - 430BC
3rd city needs a specialist so I raise lux to 30% and put 2 of the 3 taxmen back to work

IBT

Turn7 - 410BC
Paris MDI => MDI
kill 2 Bhorse and move a Pike to hill - only 2 Bhorses left there


IBT - Bhorse kills our Pike, 2nd Bhorse dies attacking our horse / Dutch learn Engineering

Turn8 - 390BC
Orleans Marketplace => FP
our horse kills the last Bhorse, disperse camp +25 gold

IBT -

Turn9 -370BC
move settler to where Bcamp was

IBT -Republic, Monarcy & Engineering are traded around

Turn10 - 350BC
Rouen barracks => MDI
Found Amiens set to galley

Notes to next player
We will get the 3 techs on your first turn

350BC save

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I've got it. Hopefully, I can get it turned around so our European team members can play Friday.

 

[grs]

No panic, I won't play before Saturday.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Pre-flight – 350 BC - Looks like we’re building up our military for an invasion. We’ll need a lot more galleys.

IBT – We learn Monarchy, Republic and Engineering.
Paris: MDI=>MDI
Dijon: Worker=>harbor (fishing village)

330 BC – I revolt and we get 8 turns of anarchy.

Early - Egypt declares on the Dutch
Send a curragh on a suicide mission and lose it.
Portugal and Rome sign a treaty.


Middle – Portugal and the Dutch sign a treaty
Caesar demands Monarchy. I give it to him.
The Dutch start Leo’s

Late - Monotheism and invention comes in.
We become a republic.
Our income takes a nice bump, we’re at 52 gpt.
Portuguese build Sun-Tzu’s

After Action – Not much. I think the thing I need to get used to at this level is the pace of advancement.

Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Bugs3,_150_BC.SAV

Roster:
Ankka – Up
GRS – On deck
Gyathaar
Doc
Gator
Bugs – Just Played

 

[Ankka]

Argh. I'm up here too. And I won't be able to play until Sunday. Would a swap be possible?

 

[grs]

I can try to play before you.

 

[grs]

Ankka, could you play before me please? I wont get to it before this night earliest, but have time to play after you tomorrow.

 

[Ankka]

Ok, got it, expect some news soon.

 

[Ankka]

Early & Middle: Build pikes % MDI's. Dutch complete Leo's. Build terrain improvements. Basic stuff.

Late: We get Chivalry from the GLib. Start on a knight in Paris. Why doesnt the AI research gunpowder? Income 60+gpt.

Basicly, nothing happened.

Save to next better player.

 

[grs]

I got it..

 

[grs]

Some thoughts:

We still don't have contact with Persia and Egypt and only have one galley (which is in a harbor btw)?

Is there a specific use of the reg warriors we still have? I guess we don't want to upgrade them, do we?

The Great Library will not last much longer, so I think we need to attack someone and do it fast. We miss galleys and knights while we have 6 pikes and 2 spears (6 vets) we could upgrade to muskets. Who will be our target? The Aztechs? They have a nice row of 4 cities where we could land on hills and mountains while all 4 cities are without def bonus (from territory). They also have wines and dyes there and they are without horses and iron! That is an invitation we should take very soon, isn't it?

 

[DJMGator13]

Sounds like a good target. We should get them before one of the other AI civs do.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I like the idea of war with the Aztecs. They also have two cities to the north just across from our island to the east.

 

[Ankka]

The problem is that we'll need loads of troops to matvh the amount they will have. Even if they only have spears, they'll have a lot of them. Just go read some other Sid SG's if you like.