Buildings

[Berenthor]

The Ring of Isengard then as a national wonder which has to be build in the capital maybe? I agree that we have to make it three or four times the speed with the king unit. I'm also not sure, I think civ uses the palace to determine the capital, but I'm not sure.

 

[Sengir]

The Ring of Isengard then as a national wonder which has to be build in the capital maybe? I agree that we have to make it three or four times the speed with the king unit. I'm also not sure, I think civ uses the palace to determine the capital, but I'm not sure.

As Isengard will have only one city, that would not require extra coding.

 

[Berenthor]

Oh yeah of course, sorry.

 

[xmen510]

Good ideas. I think I like Stoneworking for the Palace.

 

[Sengir]

As we are mostly agreed on the Great Persons, maybe its time to add their lesser variants to buildings.

I copied the list from the first post, but there is some ongoing discussion about a couple of things, so be carefull with copy/pasting this list.

Spoiler :

Palisade (+5% city defense)
Walls (+10% city defense)
Castle (+15% city defense)
Fortress (+25% city defense)
Stronghold (+35% city defense, -10% collateral damage, -10% city maintenance cost, -1 War Weariness)+1 artisan slot
Fortified Wall (+20% city defense)
Wooden Tower (+10% defense)
Stone Tower (+30% city defense, defense bonus for ranged units.)

(These will give either a free promo or be required to built related units at all)
Training Field
Archery Range
Stables
Siege Workshop
Docks (for building ships)

Town Hall (-50% maintenace costs in the city)
Market (+50% commerce in the city, +1 happiness from trade goods)+1 merchant slot
Tavern (+1 happiness, +1 happiness from Wine)+1 merchant slot
Inn (+1 trade route in the city, +1 happiness, +1 Health)+1 minstrel slot
Well (+1 Health)
Apothecary (+1 Health, +1 with Athelas/Spices)
Infirmary (+2 Health)
Smoke House (+1 health from livestock stores 10% on city growth)
Granary (stores half of the food when the city grows, +1 health from food resources)
Lighthouse (+1 food in water tiles)
Harbor (1 trade route, +50% trade-commerce)
Archives (+25% research, +1 culture)+1 loremaster slot
Library (+25% research, +1 culture)+1 loremaster slot
Houses of Lore (+50% research, +2 culture)+2 loremaster slot
Guild of Artists (+20% culture in the city, +1 happiness for each 20% of gold going to culture)+1 minstrel slot
Guild of Minstrels (+2 culture, +1 happiness)+2 minstrel slot
Forge (+50% production in the city, -3 health)+1 artisan slot
Armory (free armor promo for relevant units)
Blacksmith (2xp)
Post Office (-10% war weariness, +25% trade-commerce)+1 merchant slot
Guard's House (-15% War Weariness, free City Garrison I)
Stockade (-50% war weariness, -1 happiness)
Statue (+1 culture)

 

[xmen510]

Looks good, don't forget to update these buildings though:

Spoiler :

Palisade (+5% city defense)
Walls (+10% city defense)
Castle (+15% city defense)
Fortress (+20% city defense)
Stronghold (+25% city defense, -10% collateral damage, -10% city maintenance cost, -1 War Weariness) (Gondor only)
Fortified Wall (+15% city defense) (Numenor/Gondor/Arnor only)
Wooden Tower (+5% defense)
Stone Tower (+10% city defense, defense bonus for ranged units.)
Watch Tower: (+15% City Defence, See invisible units?, +1 or +2 Tile Visiblity from city radius?) (Arnor only)

Total City Defence: Numenor: +80% / Gondor: +105% / Arnor: +95% / Everyone Else: +65%

Also, will the Great Commander ONLY come from Combat then? Do we want an even amount for each? If so, I can suggest a few things.

 

[Sengir]

As said, I just copied the list in your post, and because I'm lazy, I'm expecting you to keep that list up to date

I also noticed that you hadn't changed the research buildings. Didn't we reach a verdict on that?

 

[xmen510]

Wasn't sure that we had formally decided. Only 3 people weighed in I think. I will update the 1st post now and the Scientific Buildings too.

EDIT: Update now done. You can redo your list now, sorry.

 

[Sengir]

Forgot my additional comments:

I'm not sure about the workings of the Great Commander in FFH. I suppose that we could have him as a regular specialist as well, but what would he give? I think that only generating him by xp would be best.

We list is quite balanced at the moment (4 minstrels, 4 loremasters, 3 merchants, 2 artisans), but I can go either way. What are your suggestions? No need to keep to my list if you have other ideas simply because I post it first.

 

[xmen510]

No, I just wasn't sure about the balance is all. I didn't know if we wanted to have 4 of each or balance it in the you have. The great Artisan is quite useful/powerful after all.

 

[Sengir]

Maybe the Artisan from stronghold should be moved to Fortress as only Gondor can build Strongholds (or give both an Artisan slot).

 

[xmen510]

Perhaps moving it down to Fortress would be best for balance reasons. We can always give one of the UB for each civ a bonus 1 depending on what the Civ represents.

 

[Sengir]

Also:
Do we want a trading post building? We do have a tech called Trading posts, so I was thinking that it should enable a namesake building.
How about this:
Trading Post (-10% (distance?) maintaince, +50% Foreign Trade Commerce, (only buildable in coastal cities??), +1 merchant slot)

 

[xmen510]

Sounds good. I'll add it to the list.

EDIT: I have also included your Great People bonuses in the 1st post.

 

[Berenthor]

Removed because of not being relevant.

 

[xmen510]

The Great Artisan IS the Great Engineer!

 

[Berenthor]

Oh yeah, sorry got confused with the artist (which is minstrell). Forget my previous post. I'm okay with the list as is.

 

[xmen510]

So, once we have the Units finalized we can come back to this and fill in any discrepancies.

 

[Terrance888]

I think there should be an Elven Unique Building that lets you 'Harvest' a forest tile for half hammer at 2/3 time without taking it away. You can do it three times an age per tile. Harvesting means taking fungi, medicines ect.

 

[xmen510]

Interesting Idea. You should repost that in the Unique Buildings Thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=282270