C-IV SGOTM 05 Pre-Game Discussion Thread

[Lexad]

Well, you'd better check out those nosy ravens again - there are some excelent specimen

 

[Ronnie1]

Yes Please! Team Threads Pretty Please!!

 

[Lexad]

Btw, with BtS patching vanlla to 1.73 or something, will the mod deal with those who have BtS installed, or we should retain an unpatched copy of Civ?

 

[da_Vinci]

Btw, with BtS patching vanlla to 1.73 or something, will the mod deal with those who have BtS installed, or we should retain an unpatched copy of Civ?

Or will there be a stand alone downloadable patch that takes vanilla to "1.73 or something" ?

If not, how does one maintain an upatched copy (really a 1.61 patched copy I assume) on the same machine as BtS?

dV

 

[Lexad]

You just copy your vanilla+warlods folder and rname it into "Civ_old" or something - and also your saveв gaes and stuff folder in My Documents - and then install BtS on the previous folder. Then you can play pre-BtS games in Civ_old folder.

 

[Gyathaar]

This is why we delayed the SGOTM start mainly..

Still dont know when they will be available for those that havent gotten BtS yet

 

[LKendter]

With this BTS headache of patching the previous games (WT???), what patch level will this play with? I plan to buy BTS on Monday...

 

[LowtherCastle]

Still dont know when they will be available for those that havent gotten BtS yet

So you've already got a copy? So much for any sense of fairness to the HOF charts, where the first guy to achieve a date has priority...

 

[AlanH]

That wasn't the point Gyathaar was making. He is saying that he doesn't know when the vanilla and Warlords patches will be released for people who don't buy BtS. This is not an appropriate place to air your concerns about the HoF scoring system..

 

[Gyathaar]

So you've already got a copy? So much for any sense of fairness to the HOF charts, where the first guy to achieve a date has priority...

I was a tester on BtS.. I have had access to the patches (and earlier versions of them) for a long time...
(and I made an updated version of the HOF mod for them some time ago too... so no matter what, if I wanted to beat you to being first on an entry in the HOF, then it would be hard to get the mod before someone who makes it )

 

[da_Vinci]

You just copy your vanilla+warlods folder and rname it into "Civ_old" or something - and also your saveв gaes and stuff folder in My Documents - and then install BtS on the previous folder. Then you can play pre-BtS games in Civ_old folder.

Pardon me if this is a dumb, techno-ignorant question (I'm a user, not a programmer), but when old Civ.exe (or whatever the application executable file is) runs, how will it know to look for the old versions of files in the "old" folder rather than in the Civ (now BtS) folder? Is the code already written to look in the same folder were the .exe application file lives?

dV

 

[Lexad]

Pretty much yes.

 

[DaviddesJ]

Is the code already written to look in the same folder were the .exe application file lives?

Yes, and it uses the name of the directory elsewhere, too. So if you rename your Civ4 directory to "OLD Civ4", then when you run the version from there, it will look under "My Games/OLD Civ4" for your saves, mods, etc.

 

[da_Vinci]

Yes, and it uses the name of the directory elsewhere, too. So if you rename your Civ4 directory to "OLD Civ4", then when you run the version from there, it will look under "My Games/OLD Civ4" for your saves, mods, etc.

Sounds good ... and just to keep folks like me out of trouble, you are suggesting we COPY (rather than rename without copying) the directory to a new one named "Old Civ 4" ... keeping the original Civ4 as that will be updated by the BtS install?

dV

 

[Lexad]

If you want to retain old version and play BtS at the same time

 

[DaviddesJ]

Sounds good ... and just to keep folks like me out of trouble, you are suggesting we COPY (rather than rename without copying) the directory to a new one named "Old Civ 4" ... keeping the original Civ4 as that will be updated by the BtS install?

Yes.......

 

[DaviddesJ]

If you want to retain old version and play BtS at the same time

Or if you want to be able to play both vanilla Civ4 1.61 and also the new vanilla Civ4 1.73.

When you rename Civ4 to "OLD Civ4" you should also rename the directory under My Games in the same way.

 

[Thrallia]

With this BTS headache of patching the previous games (WT???), what patch level will this play with? I plan to buy BTS on Monday...

The patches are available now, through the update your game link in your advanced options menu. The SGOTM will play on v1.74, according to Alan in the XOTM forum.

So you've already got a copy? So much for any sense of fairness to the HOF charts, where the first guy to achieve a date has priority...

Actually, priority is given to the player with the highest score, if there are multiple games with the same finish date.

 

[DaviddesJ]

Actually, priority is given to the player with the highest score, if there are multiple games with the same finish date.

Not to mention that even if players have BTS they can't submit HOF games because there's no HOF patch for BTS yet. And when there is, it will be released to everyone at the same time. This has got to be the biggest mountain from the smallest molehill that I've seen in some time.

 

[Thrallia]

yeah...I don't know why I forgot to say that also...must have gotten distracted while writing.