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C2C - UEM - Ultimate-Earth-Map 100% MOD and SVN update compatible by Pit2015

Btw, who did the new WB stuff? Looks cool, and improved some stuff fine.

I will start a new long game soon now, any warnings to wait a bit currently now?

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@Thunderbrd @raxo2222 and others: Guys, plz look into my options list, are these options good currently for a long game or any suggestions to change or add there something? Inquisitions option work now?

Wich options may be added to increase the game experience?

Current UEM options in scenario:

Option=GAMEOPTION_COMPLETE_KILLS
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNITED_NATIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_DIPLOMACY
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_ESPIONAGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_CULTURE_SPREAD
Option=GAMEOPTION_LARGER_CITIES
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNLIMITED_WONDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_TELEPORT_HUNTING_AWARDS
Option=GAMEOPTION_PEACE_AMONG_NPCS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ANIMALS_STAY_OUT
Option=GAMEOPTION_RECKLESS_ANIMALS
Option=GAMEOPTION_INQUISITIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_NO_VASSAL_STATES
Option=GAMEOPTION_REVOLUTION
Option=GAMEOPTION_FIGHT_OR_FLIGHT
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_SIEGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_GREAT_COMMANDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_MORE_XP_TO_LEVEL
Option=GAMEOPTION_DOWNSIZING_IS_PROFITABLE
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_NUKES
 
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Pit2015 said:
@Thunderbrd @raxo2222 and others: Guys, plz look into my options list, are these options good currently for a long game or any suggestions to change or add there something? Inquisitions option work now?

Wich options may be added to increase the game experience?

Option=GAMEOPTION_COMPLETE_KILLS
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNITED_NATIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_DIPLOMACY
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_ESPIONAGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_CULTURE_SPREAD
Option=GAMEOPTION_LARGER_CITIES
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNLIMITED_WONDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_TELEPORT_HUNTING_AWARDS
Option=GAMEOPTION_PEACE_AMONG_NPCS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ANIMALS_STAY_OUT
Option=GAMEOPTION_RECKLESS_ANIMALS
Option=GAMEOPTION_INQUISITIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_NO_VASSAL_STATES
Option=GAMEOPTION_REVOLUTION
Option=GAMEOPTION_FIGHT_OR_FLIGHT
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_SIEGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_GREAT_COMMANDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_MORE_XP_TO_LEVEL
Option=GAMEOPTION_DOWNSIZING_IS_PROFITABLE
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_NUKES
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Well all scenarios in SVN don't have any options defined in them to force players to choose options.
 
Pit2015 said:
@Thunderbrd @raxo2222 and others: Guys, plz look into my options list, are these options good currently for a long game or any suggestions to change or add there something? Inquisitions option work now?

Wich options may be added to increase the game experience?

Option=GAMEOPTION_COMPLETE_KILLS
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNITED_NATIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_DIPLOMACY
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_ESPIONAGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_CULTURE_SPREAD
Option=GAMEOPTION_LARGER_CITIES
Option=GAMEOPTION_UNLIMITED_WONDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_TELEPORT_HUNTING_AWARDS
Option=GAMEOPTION_PEACE_AMONG_NPCS
Option=GAMEOPTION_ANIMALS_STAY_OUT
Option=GAMEOPTION_RECKLESS_ANIMALS
Option=GAMEOPTION_INQUISITIONS
Option=GAMEOPTION_NO_VASSAL_STATES
Option=GAMEOPTION_REVOLUTION
Option=GAMEOPTION_FIGHT_OR_FLIGHT
Option=GAMEOPTION_REALISTIC_SIEGE
Option=GAMEOPTION_GREAT_COMMANDERS
Option=GAMEOPTION_MORE_XP_TO_LEVEL
Option=GAMEOPTION_DOWNSIZING_IS_PROFITABLE
Option=GAMEOPTION_ADVANCED_NUKES
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Would not play without: Complete Kills, Advanced Diplo, Advanced Espionage, Realistic Culture, Revolution

Would never use: Unlimited Wonders, Teleport Hunting Awards, Animals Stay Out, No Vassals

Training Wheels Options: Unlimited Wonders:lol:

Tend to play with: UN, Larger Cities, Downsizing is Profitable, Advanced Nukes, Fight or Flight

Tend to play without: Peace Among NPCs, Reckless Animals, More XP to Level

Inquisitions: I can't see inquisitions ever being worth doing, and I would never do them even if they were, but I tend to keep the option on

Realistic Siege: I hate the having to reduce the city before attacking. I have to try a game with this off to see if it's better.

Great Commanders: I love Great Commanders, but they just make combat too easy, so I have to turn this one off.
 
Make more suggestions wich option works good and wich should i add to the list for a long game? If you see any that isnt on the list now.

Any option needs to be removed because of problems for a long game?

I pick the options that support UEM the best for a long hard game, what i want to know is, is there any option that should be added that works good or is there a buggy in that list above that makes a long game impossible and should be removed?

Ok i will consider to take unlimited wonders out when it makes the game more easy but AI builds wonders fast on deity, you never get to much. Great commanders is ok on deity, AI use them too.

Any missing option in the list that should be added?
 
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RELEASED: C2C - Ultimate Earth Map V4.5 100% MOD and SVN update compatible.

HERE WE GO AGAIN! Ultimate Earth Map now with Earth + Space!

Changes in C2C - Ultimate Earth Map V4.5 100% MOD and SVN update compatible:
Space added to the UEM map/scenario!
Map enlarged, largest detailed map ever done for CIV IV Beyond the Sword including massive scale earth.
Now earth + space! Go form caveman2cosmos, try to survive or try build a super power and keep earth at peace or try to conquer earth.
Map is now 232x200 and has now 46400 plots!
Map starts at only about 1,8 GB RAM usage, great work on RAM saving and conserving from the mod team!
UEM is a good inducement now to keep up the good work on RAM saving/conserving programming in the mod.
Game option Unlimited Wonders removed from UEM scenario to make the game even harder.
Detailed the earth terrain even more + some more map changes.

Download at first posting here:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-and-svn-update-compatible-by-pit2015.552901/

Have fun - Pit

@raxo2222 Plz check latitude setting and scenario file for any bugs and let me know if any fix is needed.
 
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I'm getting MAF when opening it in worldbuilder.

Also can't reveal map in debug mode.
Bottom latitude should be -14 and top latitude should be 38 to make my latitude rescaling mod work.
Latitude can't be bigger than 90.
 
raxo2222 said:
I'm getting MAF when opening it in worldbuilder.

Also can't reveal map in debug mode.
Bottom latitude should be -14 and top latitude should be 38 to make my latitude rescaling mod work.
Latitude can't be bigger than 90.
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Ok, fixed and reuploaded.

Restart civ, then you should not get a MAF when opening in WB, somewhere is a memory leak, when you open 2-3 times a different scenario in WB then MAF, i get no MAF when i restart civ + mod and open WB then.

@raxo2222 Also i running civ in windowed mode, may be a graphic problem on your side. Sometimes windowed mode makes games run better and use less RAM.
 
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It appears maf was caused by high render quality and high resolution textures graphic options.
 
Ok, but i think i have that on, try windowed mode with full graphic settings, but maybe depends on how much RAM your graphic card has then.
 
@raxo2222 Wich one should be downloaded of your latitude mod mod for the map? I have to put that into the installation description...
 
Ok, latitude mod mod download link added to installation description.

Reuploaded UEM 4.5 found a bug, WB adds Victory=VICTORY_DIPLOMACY, that sucks.

Changed to Victory=VICTORY_CONQUEST only.

Starting new long game soon... :goodjob:
 
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raxo2222 said:
He added space portion to latest one.
This increased size of map: 25984 tiles on V4.4
46400 tiles on V4.5
Reaching Nanotech era for space stuff is likely not possible on that map.
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There is a reason why C2C games crash before the 3.5/4gb limit.
I would very much like to know that reason.
The closest thing I've seen to a possible explanation was a recent post by Alberts2 metioning a possible 1gb limit for graphics ram. It's gotta be something like that or the lights thing billw fixed (probably his #1 contribution to the mod).
If games are crashing from graphics or some other issue before reaching 4gb limit, then most memory modifications like removing building classes does nothing to help. Added/removing xml would also have no effect.
Need more info.
 
MattCA said:
There is a reason why C2C games crash before the 3.5/4gb limit.
I would very much like to know that reason.
The closest thing I've seen to a possible explanation was a recent post by Alberts2 metioning a possible 1gb limit for graphics ram. It's gotta be something like that or the lights thing billw fixed (probably his #1 contribution to the mod).
If games are crashing from graphics or some other issue before reaching 4gb limit, then most memory modifications like removing building classes does nothing to help. Added/removing xml would also have no effect.
Need more info.
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Yeah if you can figure that out it would mean a lot to our ability to plan around what's possible and what's not at least. I bet if you asked Bill on Discord he might be willing to investigate that further with you. I have little to no skills in that area myself.
 
MattCA said:
There is a reason why C2C games crash before the 3.5/4gb limit.
I would very much like to know that reason.
The closest thing I've seen to a possible explanation was a recent post by Alberts2 metioning a possible 1gb limit for graphics ram. It's gotta be something like that or the lights thing billw fixed (probably his #1 contribution to the mod).
If games are crashing from graphics or some other issue before reaching 4gb limit, then most memory modifications like removing building classes does nothing to help. Added/removing xml would also have no effect.
Need more info.
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Yeah is interesting, maybe also a memory leak somewhere, if i load 3 different (2 scenarios 3 times, first one then another then first one again) scenarios into WB one time in game then MAF, restarting civ no MAF, but well get a better graphic card. :thumbsup: I will investigate the RAM usage when starting new long game, keep up RAM conserving and develop it further, save units in citys to HDD if they are not used and so on...

@MattCA Edit: Also when you quit out of WB back to game sometimes the minimap is not displaying anymore correctly, is totaly screwed up then, sometimes no problem.
 
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My first game computer/console in a movie. :goodjob::crazyeye::goodjob: Philips G 7000. And now we still developing our dream further...


Starting new long game now, will try to build and maintain my superpower now! :king: Can our civ survive on deity and reach space? We will see.

LETZ GO CAVEMAN2COSMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Pit2015 said:
RELEASED: C2C - Ultimate Earth Map V4.6 100% MOD and SVN update compatible.

Changes in C2C - Ultimate Earth Map V4.6 100% MOD and SVN update compatible:
Scenario/map adapted to latest SVN. Works from SVN 11177.

Download at first posting here:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-and-svn-update-compatible-by-pit2015.552901/

Have fun - Pit

@raxo2222 Damn stop that version number changing in sceanrio files always, job creation measure.
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@Toffer90 did that last and this time ;)
He was doing stuff with WB.
 
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