Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Is it too early in the game for tourism to be active yet?
C2C - UEM - Ultimate-Earth-Map 100% MOD and SVN update compatible by Pit2015
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No my 4 other citys got the bonus but they are all over +100 tourism and +6 pop, pedia says +10 tourism should give the bonus and no word on city pop in pedia, in wich file is that tourism bonus defined? I can look it up then...
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Secher Nbiw
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Hello everyone! Happy New Year!!! Thank you again Pit2015 for making this amazing map!!!! Thank you again to the whole modding team as well for all of your amazing work on this mod. It's incredible what you've all done here. I know I've said it before, but really when playing C2C I feel like I am engaging with much more than a game. I have the feeling that I am also engaging with the real history of humanity and with something of the depth and variety of human experience with all of its twists and turns over thousands of years. I often feel a really moving sense of wonder and awe when playing the mod. C2C isn't only a mindblowingly incredible mod, it's also an incredibly beautiful work of art, and a great way to learn more about history. I feel this especially when playing UEM. The scale, the attention to detail and the realism of Pit2015's map makes everything happening in C2C feel that much larger and that much more real to me. There are likely as many ways to experience and enjoy C2C as there are people, but that at least is my experience. UEM really makes everything about C2C stand out and shine especially brightly for me.
I am reminded of the song or poem Shudder Before The Beautiful by Nightwish, Lyrics: Nightwish - Shudder Before The Beautiful Lyrics
I've continued work on my UEM variant, and since Pit2015 and Thunderbrd expressed interest in my previous version and post, I thought you might be interested in what I've done since with the variant. I've playtested the new version of my variant through the late Ancient era (although I used my Alternate options again).
Here is the upload: Easyupload.io
This time I've uploaded the variant with Pit2015's original options as default based on your feedback.
Here is a list of differences between my variant and original UEM 5.1 for v41.2, (in addition to the differences listed in my previous post, which remain in this version as well).
Eastern United States and along the Canadian border:
-Modified Great Lakes: Lake Huron and Lake Erie are now separate. Lake Superior is slightly different. All of the Great Lakes have been connected by rivers in the locations that existed before modifications by the United States in the last few centuries. This now forms a partial natural boundary between the Iroquois and the United States in the game which has fun and interesting strategic implications for both.
I'm particularly happy with this since I think having to think about these rivers and lakes in the game, especially while playing as the Iroquois or Americans, is a great way to learn about the history of Canada and the United States. It's a great way to learn about the history of the Iroquois or Haudenosaunee Confederacy as well, which was caught between Loyalist Canada and the independence-minded American colonies during the American Revolutionary War, right along what would become the border between Canada and the U.S.
- Added the Tombigbee, Alabama, Mobile, Satilla, Alamaha, Oconee and Ocmulgee rivers to the Southern U.S. Also extended the Catawa river in North Carolina. Added the Susquehanna River, which should make any cities founded in the northern Midatlantic U.S. more identifiable and increase that region's historical role as a breadbasket for the U.S. and a major population center.
-Added Tobacco to Virginia and 2 Tobacco to Kentucky. Moved North Carolina Tobacco from Charlotte to Raleigh. Added Pig to Charlotte.
Canada, Alaska and North Dakota: Extended Lake Winnipeg. Added Lake Nipigon and the Nipigon River. Created Vancouver Island using a double-ended river design. Expanded Haida Gwaii. Created Baranof and Chichagof islands using the same double-ended river design. created the Kentai Peninsula in Alaska and added a few Alaskan hills. Added the Eastmain river, the English river system, and the Sogueney, St. John, Red, Assininboine, Red Deer and South Saskatchewan rivers. Expanded the Severn, Kazan, Dabawat, Athabasca, Porcupine, Peel, Anderson, Coppermine, Back and Fraser rivers. Extended the Ottawa River to more clearly define the Quebec/Ontario border, and added the St. Maurice and Matawin rivers.
Bahamas, Bermuda and Turks and Caicos: Expanded Andres Island, added Turks and Caicos, added Grand Bahama Island, Great Abaco Island and an island representing Great Exuma, Long and Acklins islands. Added a complex chain of coral reefs throughout this area, which could help out a would-be Pirate Republic... Arranged a few historical resources to make it more tempting to found either Nassau or the historical Lucayan settlements on Grand Bahama and Acklins. Added the barrier reef to Bermuda, showing the reef's historically crucial role in isolating Bermuda from devastating storms, and possibly isolating it a bit longer from American expansion...
Mexico: Expanded the Yucatan Peninsula by one plot. Added the Sabado, Conches, Sonoyta, Concepción, Sonora, Yaqui, Mayo, Fuerte, Sinaloa, Culiacán, San Pedro and Tecolutla rivers. Expanded the Lerma-Balsas river system and the Verde, San Fernando and Soto La Marina rivers. Switched Vanilla and Silver resource locations at the Sioux starting area in central Mexico to represent the historical origin of vanilla near Veracruz in the homeland of the Totonac people.
New Zealand: The major islands have been reshaped somewhat. Lush terrain has been added to the peninsula north of Auckland. The mountains of New Zealand have been reworked.
Tiny new region added! Explore Rekohu/Wharekauri/The Chatham Islands, a small land to the southeast of New Zealand which was first settled by the Moriori people, descendants of the Maori who left New Zealand starting around 1500 and likely became the last Polynesian nation to discover and settle a new island chain. This mysterious land of dense ancient forest, tundra, seals and shrimp is separated by a large sea from the main islands of New Zealand, so it will be a difficult challenge to settle, just as it was for the Moriori who switched from agriculture, daring and odds defying exploration and war to a new pacifist, isolationist and hunter-gatherer way of life as they adapted to a new life in the challenging and unique environment of their new homeland.
Japan: Added the Seto Inland Sea using a double-ended river design, allowing this "inland sea" to play its crucial historical role as the substitute for a major river system in the emergence and development of civilization in Japan throughout its history. Added the Chiguko River and a single plot of land to Japan to the East of Tokyo to increase this city's importance and define the coastline around Tokyo a bit more. Some minor reshaping of the land has also been done around the area of Kyushu and Shikoku islands. The freshwater Lake Biwa has been added at its historical location near Kyoto, next to the starting location of the Japanese Civ.
Central America: numerous changes to rivers and a few changes to mountains.
Finland: The huge lake system in Finland and along the Finnish/Russian border has been added. This partial natural boundary played a large role in both Finnish and Russian history, separating Finland from Russia, shaping Finnish culture and human geography throughout history, as well playing a large part in shaping Finland's unique role in World War II.
Some changes have been made to the shape of the Carpathian and the Caucasus mountain ranges.
Northern South America and Panama: Added the Darian marsh and swamps to Panama, added "Lake" Maracaibo, extended the Cauca River and redirected the Apure River.
Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma: Added the (Texas) Colorado river. Extended the Pecos and (Oklahoma) Canadian rivers into New Mexico.
Belize: Added the Belize River.
Argentina: Added the Salado/Salado Del Sur river to the south of Buenos Aires province.
Pyrenees: Slightly altered.
I added forest and jungle to Taiwan which are suggestive of its geography. I am forgetting whether I also kept my addition of the Iron resource to the island or not.
That should be everything ^_^
I hope you find the work I've done on this variant helpful. To anyone interested in playing the variant as it is, have fun and enjoy!
Wishing you all a good new year or a better one as well!
Cheers!
I am reminded of the song or poem Shudder Before The Beautiful by Nightwish, Lyrics: Nightwish - Shudder Before The Beautiful Lyrics
I've continued work on my UEM variant, and since Pit2015 and Thunderbrd expressed interest in my previous version and post, I thought you might be interested in what I've done since with the variant. I've playtested the new version of my variant through the late Ancient era (although I used my Alternate options again).
Here is the upload: Easyupload.io
This time I've uploaded the variant with Pit2015's original options as default based on your feedback.
Here is a list of differences between my variant and original UEM 5.1 for v41.2, (in addition to the differences listed in my previous post, which remain in this version as well).
Eastern United States and along the Canadian border:
-Modified Great Lakes: Lake Huron and Lake Erie are now separate. Lake Superior is slightly different. All of the Great Lakes have been connected by rivers in the locations that existed before modifications by the United States in the last few centuries. This now forms a partial natural boundary between the Iroquois and the United States in the game which has fun and interesting strategic implications for both.
I'm particularly happy with this since I think having to think about these rivers and lakes in the game, especially while playing as the Iroquois or Americans, is a great way to learn about the history of Canada and the United States. It's a great way to learn about the history of the Iroquois or Haudenosaunee Confederacy as well, which was caught between Loyalist Canada and the independence-minded American colonies during the American Revolutionary War, right along what would become the border between Canada and the U.S.
- Added the Tombigbee, Alabama, Mobile, Satilla, Alamaha, Oconee and Ocmulgee rivers to the Southern U.S. Also extended the Catawa river in North Carolina. Added the Susquehanna River, which should make any cities founded in the northern Midatlantic U.S. more identifiable and increase that region's historical role as a breadbasket for the U.S. and a major population center.
-Added Tobacco to Virginia and 2 Tobacco to Kentucky. Moved North Carolina Tobacco from Charlotte to Raleigh. Added Pig to Charlotte.
Canada, Alaska and North Dakota: Extended Lake Winnipeg. Added Lake Nipigon and the Nipigon River. Created Vancouver Island using a double-ended river design. Expanded Haida Gwaii. Created Baranof and Chichagof islands using the same double-ended river design. created the Kentai Peninsula in Alaska and added a few Alaskan hills. Added the Eastmain river, the English river system, and the Sogueney, St. John, Red, Assininboine, Red Deer and South Saskatchewan rivers. Expanded the Severn, Kazan, Dabawat, Athabasca, Porcupine, Peel, Anderson, Coppermine, Back and Fraser rivers. Extended the Ottawa River to more clearly define the Quebec/Ontario border, and added the St. Maurice and Matawin rivers.
Bahamas, Bermuda and Turks and Caicos: Expanded Andres Island, added Turks and Caicos, added Grand Bahama Island, Great Abaco Island and an island representing Great Exuma, Long and Acklins islands. Added a complex chain of coral reefs throughout this area, which could help out a would-be Pirate Republic... Arranged a few historical resources to make it more tempting to found either Nassau or the historical Lucayan settlements on Grand Bahama and Acklins. Added the barrier reef to Bermuda, showing the reef's historically crucial role in isolating Bermuda from devastating storms, and possibly isolating it a bit longer from American expansion...
Mexico: Expanded the Yucatan Peninsula by one plot. Added the Sabado, Conches, Sonoyta, Concepción, Sonora, Yaqui, Mayo, Fuerte, Sinaloa, Culiacán, San Pedro and Tecolutla rivers. Expanded the Lerma-Balsas river system and the Verde, San Fernando and Soto La Marina rivers. Switched Vanilla and Silver resource locations at the Sioux starting area in central Mexico to represent the historical origin of vanilla near Veracruz in the homeland of the Totonac people.
New Zealand: The major islands have been reshaped somewhat. Lush terrain has been added to the peninsula north of Auckland. The mountains of New Zealand have been reworked.
Tiny new region added! Explore Rekohu/Wharekauri/The Chatham Islands, a small land to the southeast of New Zealand which was first settled by the Moriori people, descendants of the Maori who left New Zealand starting around 1500 and likely became the last Polynesian nation to discover and settle a new island chain. This mysterious land of dense ancient forest, tundra, seals and shrimp is separated by a large sea from the main islands of New Zealand, so it will be a difficult challenge to settle, just as it was for the Moriori who switched from agriculture, daring and odds defying exploration and war to a new pacifist, isolationist and hunter-gatherer way of life as they adapted to a new life in the challenging and unique environment of their new homeland.
Japan: Added the Seto Inland Sea using a double-ended river design, allowing this "inland sea" to play its crucial historical role as the substitute for a major river system in the emergence and development of civilization in Japan throughout its history. Added the Chiguko River and a single plot of land to Japan to the East of Tokyo to increase this city's importance and define the coastline around Tokyo a bit more. Some minor reshaping of the land has also been done around the area of Kyushu and Shikoku islands. The freshwater Lake Biwa has been added at its historical location near Kyoto, next to the starting location of the Japanese Civ.
Central America: numerous changes to rivers and a few changes to mountains.
Finland: The huge lake system in Finland and along the Finnish/Russian border has been added. This partial natural boundary played a large role in both Finnish and Russian history, separating Finland from Russia, shaping Finnish culture and human geography throughout history, as well playing a large part in shaping Finland's unique role in World War II.
Some changes have been made to the shape of the Carpathian and the Caucasus mountain ranges.
Northern South America and Panama: Added the Darian marsh and swamps to Panama, added "Lake" Maracaibo, extended the Cauca River and redirected the Apure River.
Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma: Added the (Texas) Colorado river. Extended the Pecos and (Oklahoma) Canadian rivers into New Mexico.
Belize: Added the Belize River.
Argentina: Added the Salado/Salado Del Sur river to the south of Buenos Aires province.
Pyrenees: Slightly altered.
I added forest and jungle to Taiwan which are suggestive of its geography. I am forgetting whether I also kept my addition of the Iron resource to the island or not.
That should be everything ^_^
I hope you find the work I've done on this variant helpful. To anyone interested in playing the variant as it is, have fun and enjoy!
Wishing you all a good new year or a better one as well!
Cheers!
Deep deep space... your universe. What is hiding there, or we are maybe the first? Many think about alien life may be more advanced then us, but what when civilizations are just starting to evolve in the universe and we belong to the few first. Maybe there where many but they are gone now, maybe there are many behind the next moon.
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Not yet, continuing my long game on SVN 11238 there the AI works also good and is building fine, but good update. Any progress on multimap and space AI currently or still low?
To all: Good background info on putin, online translate it if you are to stupid to read german.
One human at the button...https://www.rnd.de/politik/wladimir...44.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-de-DE
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Tons of changes since November 2020
So for now multimaps are very low priority and there is no space AI.
Tons of changes since November 2020
So for now multimaps are very low priority and there is no space AI.
Damn again one year gone? You kidding me... but svn 11238 works very good until now also AI is good. I am over 2000 turns now and only 1.4MB ram usage.
So will multimap be done or is a space AI planned now?
Stuff you have to think about when russia wants to saber rattling, most ppl missing that or forget it:
1. Russia took Crimea, it was owned by a sovereign state, the ukraine.
2. Putin is a ex KGB agent that dreams of making russia great again.
3. It was never said that NATO will not expand eastwards, thats a lie.
4. NATO is mostly not expanding eastwards, the european east nations dont want to join russia they want to join NATO, so they ask to join. They want to be part of free europe not a new soviet union.
5. Russia wants to stop NATO from getting stronger, thats why they try to destabilize europe with propaganda lies and media.
6. Russia tells USA dont wants missiles in cuba so they dont want missiles near there own border, but cuba de facto joined the soviets and worked with them, btw missiles can strike globaly now so its only a try to talk there way to prevent NATO from getting stronger, no one of the countrys that join NATO wants to join russia, russia dont likes it and cant accept that.
7. EVERY country has the right to join NATO if it wants to, russia has no right to forbid that.
8. Russia is waging a secret war in donbass and still denies it, but the prove is out there.
9. If ukraine is attacked ukraine has all right to defend its self.
Deep and close background on what happend so far:
1. Russia took Crimea, it was owned by a sovereign state, the ukraine.
2. Putin is a ex KGB agent that dreams of making russia great again.
3. It was never said that NATO will not expand eastwards, thats a lie.
4. NATO is mostly not expanding eastwards, the european east nations dont want to join russia they want to join NATO, so they ask to join. They want to be part of free europe not a new soviet union.
5. Russia wants to stop NATO from getting stronger, thats why they try to destabilize europe with propaganda lies and media.
6. Russia tells USA dont wants missiles in cuba so they dont want missiles near there own border, but cuba de facto joined the soviets and worked with them, btw missiles can strike globaly now so its only a try to talk there way to prevent NATO from getting stronger, no one of the countrys that join NATO wants to join russia, russia dont likes it and cant accept that.
7. EVERY country has the right to join NATO if it wants to, russia has no right to forbid that.
8. Russia is waging a secret war in donbass and still denies it, but the prove is out there.
9. If ukraine is attacked ukraine has all right to defend its self.
Deep and close background on what happend so far:
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Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
That all sounds like horribly prejudiced anti-Russian propaganda, but it's also all pretty much true. The facts of the matter are very much not in Putin's favour.
James Bakers 1990 assurances to the soviet union about not expanding one inch eastward may not have specified NATO or that the assurances only applied to the soviet union, but Russians think it reasonable to believe that Russia would inherit the assurance when formed in 1991, and that NATO is just an extension of the US.
https://www.hoover.org/research/not-one-inch-america-russia-and-making-post-cold-war-stalemate
Some counterviews to your one sided list of things to think about.
I've never heard about John Mearsheimer before today, but I like him, he seems to be quite like minded to me.
If we really wanted to wreck Russia, we would entice them into invading Ukraine, it would be a sh*tshow akin to the Libanon occupation and both the Afghan occupations. Russia won't invade Ukraine without provocation, only dimwits think so, just like only dimwits were surprised when Russia seized Crimea.
Russia has a right to feel threatened by a military power that is clearly anti-Russian, and NATO has a responsibility to consider what might be the consequences of its expansion.
https://www.hoover.org/research/not-one-inch-america-russia-and-making-post-cold-war-stalemate
Some counterviews to your one sided list of things to think about.
If we really wanted to wreck Russia, we would entice them into invading Ukraine, it would be a sh*tshow akin to the Libanon occupation and both the Afghan occupations. Russia won't invade Ukraine without provocation, only dimwits think so, just like only dimwits were surprised when Russia seized Crimea.
Russia has a right to feel threatened by a military power that is clearly anti-Russian, and NATO has a responsibility to consider what might be the consequences of its expansion.
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Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
You know as well as we all do that the "assurances" of a US administration can be considered binding for the span of the current president AT MOST. And that's if circumstances don't change, whereas of course they have, totally. Furthermore, I wouldn't trust Putin to keep a pledge from last Tuesday, never mind 1990.
I didn't watch Pit's vids, and I'm not watching yours. Pit made his points, if you really do have valid arguments to back your counterviews, then state them. I notice you say Mearsheimer is like minded to you, as opposed to "right-minded". By the way, your position is precisely the Kremlin's, so all the victims of their propaganda - or their intimidation - will no doubt be fairly "like-minded".
Yes, which has earned the US the reputation of being the least trustworthy country in the civilized world.
Even if you have good reasons, that doesn't make Russia the only one responsible for the worsening relation between them and the west.
It is usually the strong that holds the most responsibility, and Russia is a David to the Goliath that is the west, especially economically, but also militarily.
Your loss, it's quite an interesting lecture at the university of Chicago; you'd probably find the academical tone quite boring though.
Yes, I would never use the phrase "right-minded" on principle.
Nice personal attack, yeah, listening to BBC will surely overwhelm a person with Russian mind control, making them vote for Trump or Brexit on Putins behest. lol. (P.S. BBC world service is my go-to news channel, listen to it practically every day)
I would say it's a coincidence, however I'd rather be accused of being in agreement with the kremlin than being in agreement with hawks like Elliott Abrams, John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Jens Stoltenberg, Dick Chaney, Donald Rumsfeld and all the other bloodthirsty anti-Russian demagogs out there who put world peace at risk with heir manic warmongering.
The names I listed above may not seem directly relevant to the Ukraine civil war, but they all have in common that they one sided blame Russia for all that is wrong, so you can bet they agree with Yudi here. (had to even the score with a little personal attack of my own)
Russia is intentionally wrecking Ukraine as a response to the west's 2008 intention to implement Ukraine in NATO, and the following follow-through on that intention.
I doubt the Kremlin rhetoric would use my words there.
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Yudishtira
Spiritual/Creative
Before Putin, the US usually was the least trustworthy. Trump may arguably have reclaimed the title, although with his negative credibility, no-one was fooled and it was a moot point. Nowadays, it's Putin first and daylight second (honourable mention to Israel).
Russia's not the only one responsible for worsening relations, in exactly the way that Germany was not the only one responsible for war when it invaded Poland.
I made no personal attack, unlike you when you called all of us dimwits. (Including yourself, as I'm sure you have no evidence to show you saw the invasion of Crimea coming.)
You admit that Russia is doing all it can to disrupt Ukraine. That alone, without the ongoing occupations, or the troop buildup which is ten times what the US and NATO have sent, is enough to justify the countermeasures so far undertaken by the US and Europe. You think the way to keep Ukraine out of NATO, is to force it to join?
Your position seems to be precisely Putin's, namely that whatever he does is good and right and not to be questioned. Seriously, give an example of something Putin could do that you would not defend.
Russia's not the only one responsible for worsening relations, in exactly the way that Germany was not the only one responsible for war when it invaded Poland.
I made no personal attack, unlike you when you called all of us dimwits. (Including yourself, as I'm sure you have no evidence to show you saw the invasion of Crimea coming.)
You admit that Russia is doing all it can to disrupt Ukraine. That alone, without the ongoing occupations, or the troop buildup which is ten times what the US and NATO have sent, is enough to justify the countermeasures so far undertaken by the US and Europe. You think the way to keep Ukraine out of NATO, is to force it to join?
Your position seems to be precisely Putin's, namely that whatever he does is good and right and not to be questioned. Seriously, give an example of something Putin could do that you would not defend.
Sweden and Finland thinking more about to join NATO true the behavior of russia, so russia is getting exactly that what they dont want by there moves, its a myth that there was a assurances to the soviet union about not expanding one inch eastward, was already told by gorbachev also, that was never signed or said, some freaks still try to use it.
Are your family from russia toffer? Every country has its problems and bad history but russia was closing to the west until they annexed crimea, so what will you do if russia annex norway?NATO gave you many years of peace and stability in your life, some guys have to go and life in russia, lets see how fast they want to come back. You are not allowed to talk there like you did here. And norway is in NATO you traitor. 
So support your home country. Thats what russia wants, divide the west and NATO if russia had not confronted the west then alot of years and near earth destruction would not had happend, all the resources that where needed for defence could be used better, alot of years many lived in fear for a 3. world war from a so called friend in WW2, do we want to have that again? Well the WW2 friend turned into a costly desaster, dont blame the USA to much thats why you growed up in peace, without USA and NATO you will life in russia now.
Why so many countries join NATO and not russia? Russia is not a nice country, look germany, alot ppl left russia to life in germany, they dont want to life in russia's police state and because of other points. What i cant understand is they leave russia but still talk for russia, if they want to life in germany they should stay clear to NATO. Otherwise go home to russia. Look into Nawalny...
Russia already did some invasions with now foundation in the past, finland winter war before WW2, capture of letland, estland and litauen and so on... these countrys know russia, so they joined NATO fast. Stalin was not nice, gulags and so on and they want to reestablish the soviet union.
Let the freaks talk, dont beleve it all, look into the facts. John Mearsheimer wants to sell his books.
And if you want to blame USA for warmongering look into this list of russian wars:
Are your family from russia toffer? Every country has its problems and bad history but russia was closing to the west until they annexed crimea, so what will you do if russia annex norway?
NATO gave you many years of peace and stability in your life, some guys have to go and life in russia, lets see how fast they want to come back. You are not allowed to talk there like you did here. And norway is in NATO you traitor. So support your home country. Thats what russia wants, divide the west and NATO if russia had not confronted the west then alot of years and near earth destruction would not had happend, all the resources that where needed for defence could be used better, alot of years many lived in fear for a 3. world war from a so called friend in WW2, do we want to have that again? Well the WW2 friend turned into a costly desaster, dont blame the USA to much thats why you growed up in peace, without USA and NATO you will life in russia now.Why so many countries join NATO and not russia? Russia is not a nice country, look germany, alot ppl left russia to life in germany, they dont want to life in russia's police state and because of other points. What i cant understand is they leave russia but still talk for russia, if they want to life in germany they should stay clear to NATO. Otherwise go home to russia.
Look into Nawalny...Russia already did some invasions with now foundation in the past, finland winter war before WW2, capture of letland, estland and litauen and so on... these countrys know russia, so they joined NATO fast. Stalin was not nice, gulags and so on and they want to reestablish the soviet union.
Let the freaks talk, dont beleve it all, look into the facts. John Mearsheimer wants to sell his books.
And if you want to blame USA for warmongering look into this list of russian wars:
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That was not personally directed at anyone, while you quite sophistically tried to make my voice irrelevant by saying I was just a victim of propaganda.
I was waiting for the Russian response since the western backed coup, I did not know exactly what it would be, but I was not surprised the slightest when the military base that Russia lend leased in Crimea seized control of the peninsula.
Russia had made it real clear in 2008 that they considered Georgia and Ukraine their backyard, asserting that it fell under their own "Monroe Doctrine". They asserted this in reaction to the NATO declaration of Bucharest that Ukraine and Georgia were to be implemented in NATO. Not long after the NATO declaration and the Russian warning/"red line", Georgia took military action against Russian troops in the separatist regions thinking the Bucharest declaration meant they would get NATO's full support, which they didn't, and got clobbered for it. Anyone who was only slightly informed about these three events in 2008 would know for a fact that Russia would react as they did in Ukraine after the storming of the Ukrainian "capitol hill" (yes, a recent US history reference there).
Now I can't prove that I was not surprised by it, but if I indeed was surprised by it I would try to save face by admitting I was a dimwit at the time, rather than doubling down on being a dimwit.
Whether I were surprised/"a dimwit" or not is irrelevant to the topic discussed here and it's childish of you to distract the discussion by questioning my honesty when it can't be proven either way.
Comparing Russia with the third Reich is laughable at the extreme, it's not making any serious points here imo. Again it's a distraction from reality.
Putin is a brute, I don't like his domestic politics, but I don't like the domestic politics of most world leaders, but he is at least a predictable brute in geopolitics.
But seriously how does my opinion on Russia in any way bear relevance to my disapproval of the aggressive geopolitical strategy of the US hegemon and co? How does it make any critique of the west invalid?
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