C3C PBEM - WWII Europe - 'Berlin'
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GPS to Russia
The Germans launched a surprise attack on the Neutrals in Yugoslavia- mainly because, like Benelux, they were in the way and they have nice railroads. Zagreb, Belgrade, Skopje and Zaragova were captured by waffen and Opel Transport units without loss. Three neutral workers were captured in nearby fields. The Germans continued their attack into Greece which was their main goal. Two Waffen units were killed in capturing Thessalonka. We continued on down to Athens capturing the city and destroying 2 planes and 2 ships.
Russia
The Germans launched a major offensive against Leningrad with Panzer 3s and Panzer 4s. Two panzer 2s and a waffen unit were lost but the city was taken. The Russians lost about 14 infantry and flak units in the attack. German waffen/opel transport units continued on to capture Petroskoi and an airfiled north of the city with 4 planes as well as 3 workers nearby. They continued on to capture Belomorsk (losing a waffen and a panzer 2) and Kantalathi (losing 1 waffen). They also captured an airfield and destroyed a plane next to Murmansk (losing 1 waffen). A Russian tank and 3 infantry units were also killed south of Leningrad and 1 infantry unit in the city of Vilpuri was killed.
France
Germany launched an amphibious assault on Ajaccio with 2 wehrmact units capturing the island without loss.
The Germans launched a surprise attack on the Neutrals in Yugoslavia- mainly because, like Benelux, they were in the way and they have nice railroads. Zagreb, Belgrade, Skopje and Zaragova were captured by waffen and Opel Transport units without loss. Three neutral workers were captured in nearby fields. The Germans continued their attack into Greece which was their main goal. Two Waffen units were killed in capturing Thessalonka. We continued on down to Athens capturing the city and destroying 2 planes and 2 ships.
Russia
The Germans launched a major offensive against Leningrad with Panzer 3s and Panzer 4s. Two panzer 2s and a waffen unit were lost but the city was taken. The Russians lost about 14 infantry and flak units in the attack. German waffen/opel transport units continued on to capture Petroskoi and an airfiled north of the city with 4 planes as well as 3 workers nearby. They continued on to capture Belomorsk (losing a waffen and a panzer 2) and Kantalathi (losing 1 waffen). They also captured an airfield and destroyed a plane next to Murmansk (losing 1 waffen). A Russian tank and 3 infantry units were also killed south of Leningrad and 1 infantry unit in the city of Vilpuri was killed.
France
Germany launched an amphibious assault on Ajaccio with 2 wehrmact units capturing the island without loss.
Luthor_Saxburg
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Russian Inf kills 1 German Inf unit.
One Panzer is injured by air bombardements.
And that's it!
One Panzer is injured by air bombardements.
And that's it!
botman
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GPS Week 42, 1939
France:
- A frigate damaged a cargo ship at Marseille.
- Shot down an interceptor over Tripoli.
Allies:
- Two frigates attacked Marseille, destroying a plane.
- Captured Brest without loss.
- Shelled several roads near Brest.
- Shelled Dunquerque, then sunk 3 cargo ships with Catalinas.
- Shot down an interceptor over Tobruk, and lost a fighter to an interceptor.
France:
- A frigate damaged a cargo ship at Marseille.
- Shot down an interceptor over Tripoli.
Allies:
- Two frigates attacked Marseille, destroying a plane.
- Captured Brest without loss.
- Shelled several roads near Brest.
- Shelled Dunquerque, then sunk 3 cargo ships with Catalinas.
- Shot down an interceptor over Tobruk, and lost a fighter to an interceptor.
gps--->Spartaca
Italy
Artillery opened up fire upon the brave british infantry scouting the hills outside Tobruk. A squadron of lend lease Ju-87 destroyed the unit.
1 destroyer shelled Iraklio
1 bomber bombed Nahit to no effect
1 bomber damaged french destroyer in western med.
We bombed road near El Alamein
We destroyed road and railroad near Alexandria.
Navy shelled troops east of Tobruk
Minor axis states
Finnish artillery opened up barrage on the russian defenders in Vipuri.
We captured the city at the cost of 10 finnish units of infantry.
9 russian inf and 2 flak were destroyed in the assault
Finnish ski troops pillaged ore mine outside Petsamo
Romanian airforce bombed a unit of T-34 guarding the city of Odessa.
We also bombed airfield outside the city.
Italy
Artillery opened up fire upon the brave british infantry scouting the hills outside Tobruk. A squadron of lend lease Ju-87 destroyed the unit.
1 destroyer shelled Iraklio
1 bomber bombed Nahit to no effect
1 bomber damaged french destroyer in western med.
We bombed road near El Alamein
We destroyed road and railroad near Alexandria.
Navy shelled troops east of Tobruk
Minor axis states
Finnish artillery opened up barrage on the russian defenders in Vipuri.
We captured the city at the cost of 10 finnish units of infantry.
9 russian inf and 2 flak were destroyed in the assault
Finnish ski troops pillaged ore mine outside Petsamo
Romanian airforce bombed a unit of T-34 guarding the city of Odessa.
We also bombed airfield outside the city.
GPS to Russia
Russia
The German conquest of Russia continues. Moscow was captured with combined waffen/artillery attack using Opel Transport. We lost 2 waffen units. The T34 outside moscow was bombed and then killed with a Panzer 4. An infantry unit was killed on the road to Nizhniy Novgorad and 2 workers were captured. Germany lost one waffen unit. Germany continued the attack into Nizhniy and then Kazan effectively cutting Russia in two (north/south). Minsk was captured by Panzer 3 tanks and waffen units. Murmansk, Petsamo, Tserepvoets and Kiev were also captured. About 6 workers were captured in the countryside. A Russian bunker sourth of Minsk was bombed and then destroyed by a panzer 2. The Russians are in rough shape. Their T34s are pretty tough but they'll need a lot more if Russia is to survive.
Britain
Three workers were captured next to Athens. One ship was bombarded by artillery near Brussells and took a bit of damage. Patras was captured (we lost 1 waffen unit).
Neutrals
Panzer 2s killed three infantry in Dubrovnik but failed to take the city.
Russia
The German conquest of Russia continues. Moscow was captured with combined waffen/artillery attack using Opel Transport. We lost 2 waffen units. The T34 outside moscow was bombed and then killed with a Panzer 4. An infantry unit was killed on the road to Nizhniy Novgorad and 2 workers were captured. Germany lost one waffen unit. Germany continued the attack into Nizhniy and then Kazan effectively cutting Russia in two (north/south). Minsk was captured by Panzer 3 tanks and waffen units. Murmansk, Petsamo, Tserepvoets and Kiev were also captured. About 6 workers were captured in the countryside. A Russian bunker sourth of Minsk was bombed and then destroyed by a panzer 2. The Russians are in rough shape. Their T34s are pretty tough but they'll need a lot more if Russia is to survive.
Britain
Three workers were captured next to Athens. One ship was bombarded by artillery near Brussells and took a bit of damage. Patras was captured (we lost 1 waffen unit).
Neutrals
Panzer 2s killed three infantry in Dubrovnik but failed to take the city.
botman
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Well played.
I for one look forward to Luthor's revised scenario.
I for one look forward to Luthor's revised scenario.
botman
Prince
Is the difference between Allied and German conscripts intentional?
Allied are 2/2 with 5/9/1.
German appear to be 3/3 with 15/19/1!
GPS Week 45, 1939
France:
- Lost a fighter over Tripoli.
- Bombed the western road into Tripoli.
- Bombed some improvements on an airfield tile on Corsica I think it was.
Allies:
- Lost a Catalina over Brussels, but sunk a cargo ship in port.
- Sunk the Bizmark with a destroyer after shelling it with 3 cruisers and a destroyer.
- Navy destroyed the road into Denmark, and damaged 2 cargo ships in Hamburg.
- Destroyed the road into Marseille and Dunquerque.
- Bombed rail near Dijon, Oslo, and Danzig.
- Bombed Berlin, destroying the barrack.
Allied are 2/2 with 5/9/1.
German appear to be 3/3 with 15/19/1!
GPS Week 45, 1939
France:
- Lost a fighter over Tripoli.
- Bombed the western road into Tripoli.
- Bombed some improvements on an airfield tile on Corsica I think it was.
Allies:
- Lost a Catalina over Brussels, but sunk a cargo ship in port.
- Sunk the Bizmark with a destroyer after shelling it with 3 cruisers and a destroyer.
- Navy destroyed the road into Denmark, and damaged 2 cargo ships in Hamburg.
- Destroyed the road into Marseille and Dunquerque.
- Bombed rail near Dijon, Oslo, and Danzig.
- Bombed Berlin, destroying the barrack.
gps-->Spartaca
Yes, it seems like Russia was too weak in this scenario. The eastern front should be no walk in the park like it seems to be now.
My turn:
Italian navy shelled El Alamein and destroyed 3 fighters.
Italian airforce bombed roads near Alexandria
Bombed british destroyers in western med.
Romanian airforce bombed Odessa and tile near Vinnitsa
Yes, it seems like Russia was too weak in this scenario. The eastern front should be no walk in the park like it seems to be now.
My turn:
Italian navy shelled El Alamein and destroyed 3 fighters.
Italian airforce bombed roads near Alexandria
Bombed british destroyers in western med.
Romanian airforce bombed Odessa and tile near Vinnitsa
GPS to Russia
Russia
Germany continues the conquest of Russia. Two Panzer 4 armies help to capture Smolensk. Waffen units captured Kuibyshev (lost 2 waffen), Ryazan (lost 2 waffen), Yaroslav, Voronzeh, Kirov (undefended), Kursk (lost 2 waffen), and Karkov. There was a big battle for Vinnitsu where waffen supported by artillery killed a T34, KV1, 4 infantry, 2 conscripts and 2 flak (losing 2 waffen). One infantry was killed in Arkhangelsk.
Hitler calls on Stalin to accept that the battle is lost and to surrender unconditionally. We promise to show mercy to any Russian who is not a communist or a Slav.
Britain
Artillery bombard and weaken two destroyers next to Hamburg and then 2 German subs sank them. The Germans vow to end the blockade of German ports. Now that Russia has been weakened Hitler plans to begin the battle for Britain again.
Neutrals
Dubrovnik captured.
With Russia almost defeated, the French and allies will not be able to hold out for long. Might be time to accept defeat and start Luthor's revised scenario.
Russia
Germany continues the conquest of Russia. Two Panzer 4 armies help to capture Smolensk. Waffen units captured Kuibyshev (lost 2 waffen), Ryazan (lost 2 waffen), Yaroslav, Voronzeh, Kirov (undefended), Kursk (lost 2 waffen), and Karkov. There was a big battle for Vinnitsu where waffen supported by artillery killed a T34, KV1, 4 infantry, 2 conscripts and 2 flak (losing 2 waffen). One infantry was killed in Arkhangelsk.
Hitler calls on Stalin to accept that the battle is lost and to surrender unconditionally. We promise to show mercy to any Russian who is not a communist or a Slav.
Britain
Artillery bombard and weaken two destroyers next to Hamburg and then 2 German subs sank them. The Germans vow to end the blockade of German ports. Now that Russia has been weakened Hitler plans to begin the battle for Britain again.
Neutrals
Dubrovnik captured.
With Russia almost defeated, the French and allies will not be able to hold out for long. Might be time to accept defeat and start Luthor's revised scenario.
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A Russian T-34 delivers a heavy blow on the Axis killing ONE SS unit... Axis will never raise again after this mighty punch!!! 
Soviet Union is willing to fight to the bitter end, but it can also accept peace (surrender I should say) if the Allies are willing to give up.
I really don't think this scenario is very balanced. Germany will have Russia conquered by the end of 1939... not even 20 Rommels would have achieved that!
However I would like to say that the Axis strategy was bold and brilliant!
The Axis leaders realized the unbalance of forces. And took a chance on the right moment, taking advantage of their own strengths and exploiting (very well) the Russian weaknesses!
Soviet Union is willing to fight to the bitter end, but it can also accept peace (surrender I should say) if the Allies are willing to give up.
I really don't think this scenario is very balanced. Germany will have Russia conquered by the end of 1939... not even 20 Rommels would have achieved that!
However I would like to say that the Axis strategy was bold and brilliant!
The Axis leaders realized the unbalance of forces. And took a chance on the right moment, taking advantage of their own strengths and exploiting (very well) the Russian weaknesses!
botman
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GPS Week 45, 1939
France:
- Bombed the oil road outside Tripoli.
Allies:
- Captured Nantes without loss. Liberated Paris and it seems destroyed the German airforce on the ground (~a dozen planes)--there will be no more Battle of Britain.
Lost a Sherman and Stuart.
- Bombed roads near Nancy and Danzig.
- A Catalina sunk a U-Boat in Hamburg.
- The U-Boat in Amsterdam survived, but the city's barrack was destroyed.
- Naval bombardment destroyed the airfields at Marseille and Cagliari.
If I didn't already have the Germ's attention, I bet I have it now.
Seriously though, when you're all ready, feel free to start a new round with a revised biq file.
The Axis victory can't be denied (at least it cost you some nice machinery!). Well played both of you. And yes Tui, you tried!! Good game.
France:
- Bombed the oil road outside Tripoli.
Allies:
- Captured Nantes without loss. Liberated Paris and it seems destroyed the German airforce on the ground (~a dozen planes)--there will be no more Battle of Britain.
Lost a Sherman and Stuart.- Bombed roads near Nancy and Danzig.
- A Catalina sunk a U-Boat in Hamburg.
- The U-Boat in Amsterdam survived, but the city's barrack was destroyed.
- Naval bombardment destroyed the airfields at Marseille and Cagliari.
If I didn't already have the Germ's attention, I bet I have it now.
Seriously though, when you're all ready, feel free to start a new round with a revised biq file.
The Axis victory can't be denied (at least it cost you some nice machinery!
). Well played both of you. And yes Tui, you tried!! Good game.botman
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Hey, I was just thinking, what if we removed all the railways from the start of the game?
It would be a pretty dramatic change. At least then France would be able to survive a turn or two, allowing for a Dunkirk-style evacuation; and there would be no way for the Germans to drive all the way across Russian in a turn!
Logistics would become a lot more important (because you can't redeploy your entire army to a flash-point in a single turn), and bombing roads more effective. What do you guys think?
Also, it would be kinda neat if tanks could carry small infantry units. That might be pushing it a bit, but certainly I've always thought all ships should be able to carry infantry, as they did it in real life. So transports would simply be able to carry more (or larger) units, and you would still need cargo ships to move armour.
Edit: Oh. The French really deserve some lead in Africa (or a unit that doesn't need lead), as I wasn't able to build any infantry there.
And lastly, (I have no idea if this is historically accurate) maybe the German's should get a couple more U-Boats in the Atlantic at the start? Maybe deployed some distance from North America so the Allies are unsure when they'll turn up.
It would be a pretty dramatic change. At least then France would be able to survive a turn or two, allowing for a Dunkirk-style evacuation; and there would be no way for the Germans to drive all the way across Russian in a turn!
Logistics would become a lot more important (because you can't redeploy your entire army to a flash-point in a single turn), and bombing roads more effective. What do you guys think?
Also, it would be kinda neat if tanks could carry small infantry units. That might be pushing it a bit, but certainly I've always thought all ships should be able to carry infantry, as they did it in real life. So transports would simply be able to carry more (or larger) units, and you would still need cargo ships to move armour.
Edit: Oh. The French really deserve some lead in Africa (or a unit that doesn't need lead), as I wasn't able to build any infantry there.
And lastly, (I have no idea if this is historically accurate) maybe the German's should get a couple more U-Boats in the Atlantic at the start? Maybe deployed some distance from North America so the Allies are unsure when they'll turn up.
Damn! Brilliant move capturing Paris. That was most of my airforce there and I thought I had it pretty well defended. It just makes Hitler more determined than ever to capture Britain and get rid of the allied threat once and for all.
botman said:
Removing railroads could be a brilliant idea! But I think one should increase road movement to 6 in that case.
Removing railroads would increase the turns it takes for Germany to conquer France and hence give more time for Russia to build up their forces.
It would also take more time for Jerry to advance into Russian territory.
I think that Romania should have acess to all the resources required for INF at start. I got all the acess resources that Germany had but could still not build the most basic infantry units.
And maybe that Italian tanks shouldnt be placed right in front of the 8:th army if England goes first.
When I got to play Italys first turn, most of their north african army was already destroyed. I understand how France must have felt when they played their first turn.....
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Yeh, I think we are.
Spartaca probably wants to recapture Parisp), but I think we can leave it at that.
Spartaca probably wants to recapture Paris
p), but I think we can leave it at that.Last turn.
Germany bombarded 3 destroyers next to Amsterdam and then sank them with subs. It launched an amphibious assault on Dover capturing the city and then proceeded to capture London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Bristol and Cardiff all of which were lightly defended with conscrips and flaks.
Germany then retook Paris, Brest and Nantes and destroyed all the remaining allied forces in continental Europe. Hitler now has enough living space and declares unilateral peace with the world.
Germany bombarded 3 destroyers next to Amsterdam and then sank them with subs. It launched an amphibious assault on Dover capturing the city and then proceeded to capture London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Bristol and Cardiff all of which were lightly defended with conscrips and flaks.
Germany then retook Paris, Brest and Nantes and destroyed all the remaining allied forces in continental Europe. Hitler now has enough living space and declares unilateral peace with the world.
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Here are the changes I'm thinking of implementing in the MPP biq file.
