Can someone suggest some good RPGs made by companies other then Square Enix?

[Maniacal]

Well if its non-linear usually there isnt much of an unknown storyline is there?

Er, no, I think you misunderstand emu. Non-linear is often used to dexcribe a game like Oblivion which is farily openended, sure, the quests are somewhat linear, some are more open ended then others, but you don't have to complete ANY of them. In a linear game the whole game is designed around the main quest and a few side quests.

And remember, as you keep saying, to each his own, and console RPG players are not all the same!

*brands the above into you Xan's brain*

 

[Xanikk999]

Er, no, I think you misunderstand emu. Non-linear is often used to dexcribe a game like Oblivion which is farily openended, sure, the quests are somewhat linear, some are more open ended then others, but you don't have to complete ANY of them. In a linear game the whole game is designed around the main quest and a few side quests.

And remember, as you keep saying, to each his own, and console RPG players are not all the same!

*brands the above into you Xan's brain*

I like oblivion alot except there are a few gripes i have with it.

I hate how everyone is either the same level as you or higher no matter what level you are.

You dont get xp but level by skills. Which makes it harder to raise some stats.

 

[Xerol]

22 posts and no one's mentioned the Disgaea franchise. The second game just came out, and I haven't had a chance to play it yet, but it's supposed to be similar to the first, just larger in scope. The game has near endless gameplay, since each item you acquire has an associated "item world" which has a hundred maps of battles, and by going through them you unlock new abilities on the item. It's easy to get caught up in this and not progress with the story at all, as I did the first time I played it, but then my PS2 died and I haven't had a chance to go farther. It's definitely worth whatever you have to play for it if you're a gameplay freak, since it's all about the gameplay (or at least to me it is; I never got a chance to go through the story, but it didn't seem like there was much of one).

 

[Maniacal]

I like oblivion alot except there are a few gripes i have with it.

I hate how everyone is either the same level as you or higher no matter what level you are.

You dont get xp but level by skills. Which makes it harder to raise some stats.

I like the leveling system, it's more realistic. Also, there are these thnigs called mods that can change parts of the game. Obscuro's Oblivion Overhaul fixes a lot of stuff, mainly the leveling system for NPCs and creatures. I myself have not used it yet since that would mean starting new charactors.

Unless you bought the x-box version, then you have my pity.

Anyways back on topic: Disgaea? never heard of it, tell me more!

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale and Oblivion I enjoy. Ooh, and Neverwinter Nights is piking my interest recently

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Square Enix ? Those that made the FF games ? :yawn: Did they make anything else ?

Anyway, on topic:
I'm surprised no one mentioned FALLOUT.
Then Wizardry8; Might & Magic 6,7,8; Planescape Torment.
And Diablo gets a special mention too.

You'll probably like Septerra Core more than the above if you like the all linear aproach.

 

[Oruc]

Nope!

 

[Quinzy]

heretic cata: i'm pretty sure square also made the crono seiries (also very good games, crono trigger especially)

 

[Xanikk999]

heretic cata: i'm pretty sure square also made the crono seiries (also very good games, crono trigger especially)

Square has made alot of other games. They are just more well known for the final fantasy series.

 

[Reno]

I'm surprised no one mentioned FALLOUT.

I'll second this one, Fallout I & II are both classics. Although you'll have to patch Fallout II to get rid of the gazillion bugs the game has.

 

[Maniacal]

I'll second this one, Fallout I & II are both classics. Although you'll have to patch Fallout II to get rid of the gazillion bugs the game has.

The problem with these games is that ALMOST NO STORES EVER HAVE THEM. Fallout sounds good, heh, reminds me of Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I'll second this one, Fallout I & II are both classics. Although you'll have to patch Fallout II to get rid of the gazillion bugs the game has.

Everybody keeps saying that, yet i have played Fallout2 three times and Fallout 1 twice, both without any patches (when i didn't have internet) and found no bug except the car's trunk teleporting in F2. Other than that nothing ...

The problem with these games is that ALMOST NO STORES EVER HAVE THEM.

How ironic. Fallout 1,2,Tactics are the cheapest games you can buy at the computer games store in my city. (3$)

 

[Maniacal]

Well, I meant stores in say, malls, and older(ish) games. Though they do have a few, but many of them are not the gems. i should find some smaller ones... smaller being not in size nesecaraly but not some big chain. I admit I have not looked very hard since I rarely go to any big city.

 

[Abaddon]

Hey guess what, ive found an amazing shop you can buy any old game.. usually pretty cheap!..

Some of the games i was seeing i couldnt even believe! Fallout, BG1, FF7, Icewind Dale to name but a few! want to use it?

Spoiler :

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Maniacal]

Yeah, but then you have to pay shipping.

I'll check it out.

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

I forgot to mention that Skies of Arcadia is my favourite RPG game of all time. And it introduced me to my first love:

Spoiler :

The jacket you fools, the jacket!

 

[Maniacal]

That costume is pretty wicked. Skies of Arcadia *googles*

http://soaworld.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/Index.htm

 

[Mr Moron]

dont know why you like square enix though they make some crap rpgs.

"Thats my problem with Final Fantasy it just seems Im a spectator at the important parts of the plot, as if my my job is to get the character from Cutscene A to Cutscene B.

I prefer RPGs that at least give the illusion of choice and that I'm influencing how the story progresses."

The above two quotes show the problem, you're not a fan of the genre. Square-enix doesn't make "crap" they just don't make the kind of games you like. You saying they make crap is like a die-hard rap fan going to a country music concert and saying "The Music Here Sucks".

The problem is people seem to clump Western/PC Style "RPGs" in with Eastern/Console Style "RPGs". Though honestly the term "RPG" is rather poor name for both (more so for the console-style RPG).

Being "spectactor" to the important part is honestly a great deal of the entire point of the style. Don't play platformers if you don't want to deal with jumping puzzles either.


EDIT: That Said, to the OP:

-Lufia II is great oldie for the SNES give it a try if you don't mind stuff from the past.
-Tales of Symphonia is pretty good but the is distinctly in what you would call the "Anime" style, so you might not like it.
-Dark Cloud 2 is a action-(console style)RPG that is pretty fun give it a try if you don't mind those kind of games.
-The Entire "Breath of Fire" series isn't a bad bet. The games range form "Good" to "Above Average" none of them are really bad. Except maybe the most recent one, I heard so much bad stuff about that I didn't risk spending the money on on it.
-Phantasy Star IV another old one, Sega Gen. Game. Still Good. There is a PS2 remake in the works but it might take a miracle for it to see state-side. (another warning on animish art).

There actually a few others I can mention but then I realize they step on that awuflly-akward "Anime" style art landmine you've placed. Honestly it's surpising to hear a console-RPG fan say that.

Square Enix ? Those that made the FF games ? :yawn: Did they make anything else ?

Star Ocean
Valkyrie Profile
Xenogears
Front Mission

Also, Final Fantasy Tactics.. which deserves special note apart from the Final Fantasy Franchise. (yes i'm aware this one is cheating a little

come to mind.

Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile belonging to the "Enix" part of Square-Enix and Xenogears/Front Mission belonging to the "Square" part of the equation. Dragon Quest games should also get note, I enjoy those but never finish them. End-Game bosses always too hard for me.

 

[Oruc]

Nope!

 

[Mr Moron]

I am a fan of the genre, I have played plently of RPG's, I have also had the arguement about whether or not you can class JPRG's as actual RPGs. the general consensus at the time was that they are RPG's because we couldn't really define them as anything else.

So please dont say Im not a fan of the genre just because I dont like the same games as you.

Except that they really aren't. They have almost nothing in common except the fact that chances are there are some swords and wizard or two running around (and if that is enough, I hereby Delcare Golden Axe an RPG). In terms of gameplay, story telling style and just about everything else they have nothing in common. Grouping the two together is about as confused as lumping platformers and shooters together because they are both "Action" games.

Console/Eastern "JRPGS" and PC/Western "RPGS" are just totally different beasts. I'm of the firm belief that the current tradition of classifying them together and comparing them to one another is very silly.