Changing the French leader

[Xen]

Originally posted by Padma
Everyone except the poor leaderhead artist who has to finish all those leaderheads in time for release!

poor artists... if only they would relveal what rendering program they used- then perhaps custom creators could better create more "civish" looking units

 

[G-Force Junkie]

Point is, the best candidate to replace Joan is either Napoleon or Louis XIV because France was the center of European culture under Louis XIV and Napoleon implemented systems into France that outlasted his military achievements, such as the Napoleonic Code, which if I remember correctly is still taught in law schools in Louisiana (which I'm pretty sure was named for Louis XIV). Anyway, they affected France much more than Joan and they WERE LEADERS of France.

BTW, it would be cool if Teddy Roosevelt or Peter the Great (I think it was Peter I) were put into the expansion as bonus leaderheads.

 

[SoCalian]

Some leaders that should be changed are Joan, Cathrine, and Cleopatra.

Joan->Louis
Cathrine->Lenin
Cleopatra->RamessesII

Mabey in the next xp they could include a lot of extra leaderheads, along with a lot of 'best of the net' Leaderheads, graphics, and Units.

 

[Major Hance]

hey i am Highgenerals second in command i was ordered to come and help my commander out. got a problem if there is back off!!!!!

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[Benderino]

Originally posted by Major Hance
hey i am Highgenerals second in command i was ordered to come and help my commander out. got a problem if there is back off!!!!!

All I can say is

 

[Padma]

It's called a DL - Duplicate Logon. It has also been banned. And if highgeneral does it again, he could find himself perm-banned.

 

[Benderino]

No, please don't. I find the whole cherade rather amusing .

 

[Arne]

Originally posted by SoCalian
Some leaders that should be changed are Joan, Cathrine, and Cleopatra.
Joan->Louis ...
Cleopatra->RamessesII

You mean Louis XIV. I guess? Agreed, but could you explain why you chose Ramses II? He was only the latest (real) pharao. This way many of his buildings would not being removed/desroyed from his successor(s) and so they came up to us today. IMHO Khufu (Cheops), Kefare (Chefren) or Hatschepsut would be much better egyptian leaders.

 

[Ian Beale]

Have to be honest i've no interest in the Egyptian leader or any of the other "minor" civs.

 

[Benderino]

Originally posted by Ian Beale
Have to be honest i've no interest in the Egyptian leader or any of the other "minor" civs.

Who classifies them as "minor"?

 

[Ian Beale]

Sorry i say "minor" i mean those civs that aren't as famous as others. Thats why i quoted minor- to an Egyptian it is extremely important yet to me it is irrelevant!

 

[Benderino]

Originally posted by Ian Beale
Sorry i say "minor" i mean those civs that aren't as famous as others. Thats why i quoted minor- to an Egyptian it is extremely important yet to me it is irrelevant!

I think Egypt is quite "famous", especially in terms of Ancient history.

 

[sealman]

QUOTE]Originally posted by SoCalian
Some leaders that should be changed are Joan, Cathrine, and Cleopatra.

...
Cathrine->Lenin

... [/QUOTE]

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with Catherine II or Catherine the Great as the leader of Russia. She meets my 2 criteria for leadership

1 - actually ruled the civ she represents. Ruled Russia from 1762-1796 (might be a bit off on the dates, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be - and it was pretty dull back in college as well. too much and

2 - Made a significate contribution to his/her civ. In Catherine's case, she not only added some 200,000 square miles to teh Russian empire, she continued Peter the Great's goal of "Westernizing" Russia and making it a European Power. After all, she was not called "The Great" for nothing.

So what if she was German by birth. She was Russian by action.

back to the topic of this thread, Joan should not be the leader of France because she does not meet Sealman critera #1.

As for other leaders of Russia, depending on your point of view (any any special senarios you wish to run) other Russian rulers can be as good as, or an even better, choice. Such as Peter the Great, Ivan the Terrible.

I would not choose Lenin or Stalin as leaders of Russia because they were not actual leaders of Russia. They were leaders of the Soviet Union. I know, I know... some people say so what, it is basically the same. I tend to disagree but that is my position reached back during my study of Eastern Euopean History. I veiw Lenin and Stalin as leaders of the Russian civ the same way that I would of Jefferson Davis (President of the Confederate States of America) as being the leader of the American Civ. Just a case of semantics.
If this does not bother you, than both would be adequate leaders, although I would say that Stalin would be a better choice than Lenin.

 

[sealman]

I gotta agree with the "gentlerbot". I would not refer to Egypt as a minor civ.

 

[serpentx777]

Napoleon definitely!

 

[Ian Beale]

yeah not "minor" but what other word could i have used. Few know alot about Egyptian leaders as they do German or English leaders. I agree they played an important part in world history- still doesn't mean i know very much about them though! I was just stating that in my opinion changing it was amatter of complete indifference to me.

 

[herman]

my coz. Highgeneral said it should be marie annitonet is she louies 14 wife if so why not her