Cherokee Civilization Mod

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

When the Leaderhead is done I'll add encorporate your mod somewhere in a future version of Far Horizons Mobilize.

 

[Quasar1011]

Do you need city names for this mod? I once drove through Cherokee, North Carolina. Nearby was the Nantahala National Forest, and there was a Nantahala River too.

 

[Mobilize]

Sword of Geddon: Alright, that sounds good.

Quasar1011: No I think I have plenty of city names.. see.

CHEROKEE

#LEADER

(Outacite) Ostenaco

#MILITARY GREAT LEADERS

Moytoy
Attakullaculla
Oconstota
Yonaguska
Tahchee
Tuhchee
Tsiyu-gunsini
John Lowrey
John Ross
Stand Waite

#SCIENTIFIC GREAT LEADERS

Sequoyah
Inali
Elias Boudinot
Robert Ward

#CITY LIST

Tugaloo
Keetoowah
Ustanali
Tellico
Chota
Kiowe
Chickamauga
Oconee
Echota
Chattanooga
Tennessee
Cowee
Ocanaluftee
Tahlequah
New Echota
Qualatchee
Kulsetsiyi
Estatoee
Toxaway
Anisgayayi
Tomassee
Ellijay
Itseyi
Watauga
Tawsee
Dustavalunyi
Tallulah
Chatuga
Gusti
Chilhowee
Guhlaniyi
Naguchee
Canuga
Kansaki
Seneca
Tasetsi
Saguahi
Coweeshee
Sitiku
Toquo
Cheesoheha
Niowe
Quinahaqui
Setsi
Taskigi
Sitico
Dahlonega
Qualla
Hillabi
Sillisaw

 

[Quasar1011]

Isn't Seneca an Iroquois name?

 

[Mobilize]

The Seneca were part of the Iroquois Confederation. However the Cherokee had a town called Seneca, I don't know if it has any relation, but geographically it wasn't close at all to the Seneca who were located in modern day Canada and Seneca was in South Carolina.

 

[frekk]

The Seneca were part of the Iroquois Confederation. However the Cherokee had a town called Seneca, I don't know if it has any relation, but geographically it wasn't close at all to the Seneca who were located in modern day Canada and Seneca was in South Carolina.

The Seneca called themselves Onotowaka, so probably it was (like so many other things) a mix-up on the part of European geographers/historians. "Iroqouis" is another mix-up, it means "real snakes" (lol) and was a sort of racial epithet their enemies called them (real name was Haudenosaunee, People of the Longhouse).
The Seneca were in the US btw, as with the rest of the Confederacy, along the south shores of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, extending up to the Thousand Islands area of the St. Lawrence, but primarily centered in what is now northern NY state. Only a small fraction of their traditional territory lay in Canada although they did establish some colonies beyond their normal range after the fur trade got established. To the north of the Iroquois were the Huron, who at one point dominated what is now Quebec and parts of eastern Ontario.

I think the mix-up of names might have something to do with the Tuscarora (real name Skaruren - "hemp folk"!). They were pushed out of the Carolinas by settlers around 1710, fled over the Appalachians, and wound up in Iroquois territory in 1722, joining the Confederacy and becoming the Sixth Nation. It's quite likely they were in contact with the Cherokee, whose traditional home along the borders between Georgia and Carolinas I think? They were sure to have been in contact as their traditional lands are fairly nearby to each other.

I'm rather sketchy on the history of groups in the southern and western US (like the Cherokee, or the Plains groups) so I'm not really sure if I'm placing the Cherokee right, or where exactly in the Carolinas the Tuscarora homeland would have been before the 1700s. What I've heard (not sure how reliably) is that the Tuscarora were centered in the Appalachians right around where the North Carolina/Virginia border hits the foothills, and extending a bit onto the coastal lowlands, and the Cherokee ranged to the south and west of the southern tip of the Appalachians, in the northern part of Georgia and the west part of South Carolina (before the Trail of Tears, that is). If that's right they were practically next door neighbours at one point, so it's possible that's where the word came from perhaps?

I'm not too familiar with the Cherokee really, how exactly were they organized? Was it a confederation of tribes, or just one really large tribe?

 

[Mobilize]

http://www.american-native-art.com/publication/cherokee/cherokee.html

I could tell you all myself, since I am Cherokee ya know.. but this site does a good job.

 

[frekk]

Hmm .. good intro .. but I'm not really all that clear on the "seven matrilineal clans" - were these separate groups at one time (which would make the Cherokee a confederation?) Or an internal division which had always existed?

 

[QFred]

Good stuff!!!! When do you post it????
I want to download it...

 

[CivArmy s. 1994]

Good stuff!!!! When do you post it????
I want to download it...

I think this project was done, I did the arts, Mobilize choice the stuffs (city list, great leader, bonuses...). Go to www.geocities.com/civ_army_1994 to find the Cherokee civilization, there u just need find the correct link (it is easy).

 

[Mobilize]

Yes.. I am soon going to release an .exe with the Cherokee replacing the Byzantines and Austria replacing the Sumerians. Is this alright.

Just for you're information, I refuse to replace the Zulu or the Koreans because they are worthy of their position in the game and are in starting locations which would be bare without them.

 

[praxisdying]

very sorry to wake the thread, but there are some loose ends here
1)at times the Cherokee had contact with the Iroquois and considered themselves a part of the Iroquois

2)the Cherokee were and are not a confederation,

3)if anyone can give me the files for this mod, i will gladly attempt to finishit