Chinese History Workshop

If you are still interested in the workshop, fancy giving a brief description of the China / Tibet history, so as to judge the validity of the chinesse claim over the area? I had heard it has been under chinesse rule for a lot of its history, but know nothing about it.
 
Could you mention some lesser known inventions that comes from China? Or other Korea/Japan for that matter.
 
Yoda Power said:
Could you mention some lesser known inventions that comes from China? Or other Korea/Japan for that matter.
Advanced agricultural techniques fr China - which led to an agricultural revolution in Europe when explorers and trades brought those home, which in turn led to a rapid increase in the pop. Like how European farmers used to just throw the seeds around and hoped something will grow, whilst the Chinese would carefully plant each seed into the earth, in organized neat row and row etc. Also certain tilling tools etc etc. But I'm not that well-versed in this...

Also perhaps the wheelbarrow... A great energy-saving equipment for moving loads around. Though I'm not sure on this.

For Chinese science/technology, best if you'll consult Needham's extensive encyclopedia on the subject - the guy and his team spent decades compiling the info and was an acknowledged expert.
 
if_only_we_were said:
If you are still interested in the workshop, fancy giving a brief description of the China / Tibet history, so as to judge the validity of the chinesse claim over the area? I had heard it has been under chinesse rule for a lot of its history, but know nothing about it.
The only time it was under any kind of foreign rule was by the Manchus, and even that was arguable. Though the Qing maintained ambans (sort of like British colonial Residents) and small forces in Tibet, it seemed it's the Lamas who ruled. And the Manchus were hardly Chinese.

The reason for the Manchu interference in Tibet was in relation to their Mongol policy - Tibet was the religious fount for the Mongol tribes; the Mongols having mostly converted to Lamaism, and many studied the religion in Tibet. The Tibetan Lamas were to be 'controlled', lest Mongol lords (like Galdan e.g.) came to control them, and then imposed a new unity on the Mongol tribes thru religion.
 
But didn't the Ming Dynasty conquer Tibet though?
 
alex994 said:
But didn't the Ming Dynasty conquer Tibet though?
No. The Ming additions to 'China' were the Yunnan (never ruled by Chinese before) and Liaodong (lost since Han times) provinces. But not Tibet.

You'll have to remember the Tibetans weren't exactly the peace-loving helpless people they're portrayed today by the Western media. In Tang times, under their first great king, the Tibetans struck Tang outposts and positions all the way fr Central Asia to Sichuan province, and were mortal enemies of the Chinese. They're also attacking into the Indian side. And their mountainous homeland was difficult territory for any would-be conqueror.
 
XIII said:
Depending on which ones. I *think* I'd seen one on the Romance when I was young - it was a HK production. In these times, seemed that they prefered to have more modern scripts, like the jingyong adaptations. :undecide:

But I had played the KOEI Romance games. :smug:
Nope , I'm not talking about a HK production. They're mainland productions and veeeery long. The ROT3K one came out earlier, and the first time I saw it was in a Japanese channel! :eek: Of course I went and hunted for the Chinese version. :D The Water Margin was showing when I was in Singapore around 1996. You might still be able to find them.

I recommend them because these are the most faithful adaptations I've seen so far. Perhaps a lack of flashy special effects since they were filmed years ago, but they were totally faithful to the original books. No artistic liberties or pandering to popular tastes! (Like HK or Taiwan productions.) And no pretty boys as heroes too. :lol: Instead you get gruff looking real men who don't require a lot of imagination from the audience to be identified as say, Zhao Yun or Lu Bu. :goodjob: (The female characters, however, are a totally different story. How come even the lowly maids are so pretty? :crazyeye: )
 
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