City names.

[Swein Forkbeard]

Personally, I wish I saw more of the lower city names in the game. It'd be great if they just took the first city as your capital, and then selected the rest randomly. Since I play on smaller and usually more crowded maps, I rarely see anything but the first 6, sometimes only the first 4.

I have a habit of renaming captured barbarian cities using names further down in the list.

This was done in Rise of Nations. Here are my city names as each civ I have played in quick battle games.

America - Washington, Salt Lake City, Boise
Germany - Berlin, Rostock, Heidelberg
Aztec - Tenochtitlan, Xochicalco

 

[Tee Kay]

Persia - Shares cities of Shiraz and Merv with the Arabs, and Peshawar with the Indians. This puzzles me.

Merv and Shiraz were ruled for the most part by Persians but the Arabs conquered it and ruled for a while in the 7th century. Peshawar was part of the old Persian Empire

Vikings - Why do they have a number of British cities after the actual Scandinavian city names runs out? They even have an Irish city in the list (Limerick)

That's strange. I would think there's plenty of Scandinavian cities to fill the list.

Mongolia - The actual Mongolian cities appear later than things like Samarqand (Uzbekistan), Tabriz (Iran), Tiflis (Georgia), and Kazan' (RUSSIA).

They were founded much later (Urga/Ulaanbaatar was only founded in the 17th century iirc).

Yeah the city list is messed up. I like Antilogic's idea.

 

[Onagan]

Vikings - Why do they have a number of British cities after the actual Scandinavian city names runs out? They even have an Irish city in the list (Limerick)

They ruled the British Isles until 1066. And the Capital of Scandinavia wasn't founded until the 13th century.

 

[Tronicoz]

Thermopylae wasnt on the grrek list

 

[Tronicoz]

Many cities names in the game have name overlap! Here are some examples:
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Vikings - Why do they have a number of British cities after the actual Scandinavian city names runs out? They even have an Irish city in the list (Limerick)

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The viking cities Stamford(Stam fjord) and Limerick(sjdjhgfshg) were founded by vikings. but not in scnadinavia. so it is real viking cities.

 

[sooooo]

It's kinda weird that some civs have cities in their lists that were in overseas territories (as previously mentioned, like Vikings, Romans, Persians, Mongolians etc), yet some do not. For example, the English empire does not have american, indian or australian cities in their list. No ex-spanish or French colonial cities either. I guess that's for sensitivity reasons. It would be a bit insensitive to put Boston or Delhi in the english cities list .

 

[ParadigmShifter]

If I play as England I always rename my capital Liverpool. I'd rather call it Everton of course but that's just a district unfortunately.

 

[Bushface]

If I play as England I always rename my capital Liverpool. I'd rather call it Everton of course but that's just a district unfortunately.

So ? What about The Mumbles ? And as the game neither knows nor cares about reality, you can name your cities whatever you like (though I think there's a limit to length). Everton, Toxteth, Speke, Bootle - help yourself !

 

[kristopherb]

I guess that's for sensitivity reasons. It would be a bit insensitive to put Boston or Delhi in the english cities list .

the temptation is there ... for me anyway!

 

[MilesGregarius]

Celtia - Why is Mediolanum in their city names list!? Maybe because Celts lived in that area?

Mediolanum was founded by the Celts. Northern Italy, between the Alps and the Rubicon, was known as Cisalpine Gaul.

Vikings - Why do they have a number of British cities after the actual Scandinavian city names runs out? They even have an Irish city in the list (Limerick)

The Vikings established a number of settlements in Ireland; Limerick and Waterford (Vedrarfjord) are the two largest.

 

[MilesGregarius]

If I play as England I always rename my capital Liverpool. I'd rather call it Everton of course but that's just a district unfortunately.

Everton.

And as Bushface says, so what?

When I play America, I always name the cities after places I've lived, no matter how small.

 

[Onagan]

I give my cities often different names. And what's wrong with Stone Harbor as a city name.

 

[Hawe Hawe]

In my opinion the Indian city list is also quite debatable. They include some Pakistani city names like Lahore, Karachi or Rawalpindi. Regarding the very sensible and complicated relationship between India and Pakistan i wonder why they did mix the names of those two countries. They do the same thing since Civ 1 if i remember correctly. The city lists of other still existing civs are much more based on the recent frontiers.
There would be more than enough undebated Indian names, including historic places like Harappa or Taxila or religious and cultural centers like Varanasi.
Further the list includes cities from Myanmar like Rangoon or Mandalay. Doesn't fit either.
Other thing what do Bengal, Punjab and Indus stand for? Are there really cities with the same names? Aren't they more like regions?

 

[flamingzaroc121]

Indus is a region and a river in India, and i think they added those other cities because the civilization did spread throughout those regions at one point

 

[Sjaramei]

They ruled the British Isles until 1066. And the Capital of Scandinavia wasn't founded until the 13th century.

This interests me... what is the "Capital of Scandinavia" called?



(or if you were referring to them as "vikings" in the game, disregard it)

 

[Onagan]

Stockholm* is often called the capital of Scandinavia, and it's not listed in the Viking city-list.
Because the Viking era ended in the 11th century, when the christianization of Scandinavia (the home of the Vikings) got completed.
Stockholm was founded in 1252 by Birger Jarl, well after the Viking era.

* (second most northern city with more than a million citizens, only St. Petersburg is 70 km closer to the north-pole)

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

In my opinion the Indian city list is also quite debatable. They include some Pakistani city names like Lahore, Karachi or Rawalpindi. Regarding the very sensible and complicated relationship between India and Pakistan i wonder why they did mix the names of those two countries. They do the same thing since Civ 1 if i remember correctly. The city lists of other still existing civs are much more based on the recent frontiers.
There would be more than enough undebated Indian names, including historic places like Harappa or Taxila or religious and cultural centers like Varanasi.
Further the list includes cities from Myanmar like Rangoon or Mandalay. Doesn't fit either.
Other thing what do Bengal, Punjab and Indus stand for? Are there really cities with the same names? Aren't they more like regions?

Not to mention the Bangladeshi cities of Dhaka and Chittagong are also the Indian city list. Varanasi is already in the list.

I am also puzzled about some of the Zulu cities; Bulawayo and Maseru, in particular, as both are quite far away from Zululand. Maseru is the capital of Lesotho, while Bulawayo is a Zimbabwean city with over a million people. And I forgot Lobamba as well; that city is a secondary capital for Swaziland.

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

It's kinda weird that some civs have cities in their lists that were in overseas territories (as previously mentioned, like Vikings, Romans, Persians, Mongolians etc), yet some do not. For example, the English empire does not have american, indian or australian cities in their list. No ex-spanish or French colonial cities either. I guess that's for sensitivity reasons. It would be a bit insensitive to put Boston or Delhi in the english cities list .

I wonder whether the sensitivity factor would be true if Portugal had cities like Goa, Macau, or Sao Paulo or if the Netherlands had cities like Paramaribo or Jakarta.

The same is true (to a lesser extent) for Greece. They have Syracuse (which comes before Thessalonica), Smyrna (which comes before Marathon and is actually modern-day Izmir) and a bunch of other colonies. They don't go too far, though, which is a good thing as we don't want Massilia, Neapolis, or Taras to be in the list, do we?

 

[Tee Kay]

I wonder whether the sensitivity factor would be true if Portugal had cities like Goa, Macau, or Sao Paulo or if the Netherlands had cities like Paramaribo or Jakarta.

The same is true (to a lesser extent) for Greece. They have Syracuse (which comes before Thessalonica), Smyrna (which comes before Marathon and is actually modern-day Izmir) and a bunch of other colonies. They don't go too far, though, which is a good thing as we don't want Massilia, Neapolis, or Taras to be in the list, do we?

Actually in Civ3 Portugal had Rio Janeiro, Sao Paulo, Goa and Diu in their city list.

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

Tynwald - The name of the parliament of the Isle of Man, not an actual city.

Vinland - Same case with the Indian cities of Punjab, Bengal, and Indus; this is actually a region, and it's the region of the New World which Leif Ericksson settled in for about a decade.