City planning and dotmapping

[Tubby Rower]

spice city is exactly 7 tiles south of Dunderhead. That's if we settle on the NW spice. Ave. Joe is headed east and should be there in enough time to escort the settler and act as MP. Similar to Igor and Effing Whomping Rower

EDIT:: another point to consider.... Simpleton's borders will expand in 11 turns to cover that land

 

[Kickbooti]

First, I say go for the red-coastal city.
Second, I'd say send a settler to Spice Mnt.
Thrid/Fourth, I'd go for the pink and yellow dots south of SKWTD.

I think that the furs are relatively safe, besides, we need workers to build up the core and road to get the lux anyway.

I can't do math so the Rainmen have obvious veto power, I'm just looking at the map and thinking of future conflicts.

Oh, and don't worry about Ivory. I think we will get some from the other continent's northern shore in good time

 

[Crakie]

my map was not a recommendation on what cities to settle, just an analysis of the effect of the black dot (for info only).

edit: btw, how far away are these spices, and how do we intend on defending and supporting that turf?

I know, I know... It looks about right though, on first glance.

The black dot doesn't seem right to me, especially after Grahamian's analysis.

The red dot might be ok, but I'd rather settle on the hills in the east first (pink dot).

The blue dot should be 1 SE IMO, to give more tiles to be worked for core cities.

My order would be: spices, 2 more cities along our river (pink and yellow for example), furs, finish setlling the river.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Blue dot 1 SE would put it on a BG

black dot is now a IMO too

red dot does seem to be a little wrong for right now too. No one is planning on settling that area except us. There's no river there and would grow very slow.

Crakie once again has convinced me... but I'd like to go pink, spices, yellow, furs, finish up

 

[grahamiam]

why yellow over purple? purple has less corruption, better land, and secures iron. at 50% corruption, it could be up to 5spt after corruption at size 5 or 6. yellow will be stuck somewhere around 2 and 3spt till Republic and/or a court. if we're going to stretch for the furs, we better have decent towns to back it up.

 

[Tubby Rower]

aah ha!!! I'm an idiot.


Back on topic now.... I guess that purple is better. I was just looking for a city to road to from the dyes. I'm sure that can wait an additional 4 turns. So puple has replaced yellow.

 

[Crakie]

Blue dot 1 SE would put it on a BG

black dot is now a IMO too

Oops... how about 1 S then? I would really like Dunderhead and Ignoramus to have a decent number of tiles to work on. I must admit I am too lazy to do the math... what we want is dunderhead and ignoramus (our best cities) to be able to work 12 tiles, because with that kind of land they will easily grow to pop 12. Upon re-inspection of the current position of the blue dot, they will probably make that and otherwise we can always keep the blue dot city at pop 7 (preferably not lower due to unit support, higher if possible).

Purple instead of yellow is fine, hadn't considered corruption

 

[Tubby Rower]

1 S is also a BG... there are actually a load of bgs around that river....2SE or 1 SE-1S is just a grassland. but I'm not too worried with the 12 pop Dunderhead being encroached upon. Anyways for a while Dunderhead will be squirting out workers quicker than the jack-rabbits in New Mexico.

 

[grahamiam]

@crakie: there's so much room in our core, those towns (dunderhead, Ig, blue, red, Jesterton, Simpleton, SKWTD, etc) will have no problem getting up to size 12 and all working 12 tiles.

 

[Kickbooti]

I will still argue for the Red first. I know it won't be a monster producer, but I think that it would be good for stratigic reasons. It will serve as an early warning system on the east coast. Right now anybody could sail up to Simpleton and we wouldn't be able to respond.

Yes, yes. We could accomplish the early warning system with a warrior - but our cities are better at making settlers right now - and it would get us more wine.

The corruption has to be taken into account, but that is my rationale for red.

 

[grahamiam]

by delaying red till after blue (already done) and purple, you will insure that the shield heavy towns get the lower rank corruption. red will only be a fishing village (and not a bad one either with 2 fishes ) so it will be a good spot, but a lower corruption in the other 2 is important for unit production.

 

[Daghdha]

It will serve as an early warning system on the east coast. Right now anybody could sail up to Simpleton and we wouldn't be able to respond.

Right now no one is sailing, at least not with troops aboard, and won't be for many moons. I think we can hold that one for the second wave of settlers.

 

[Kickbooti]

Corruption trumps all at this point. I defer to the experts (and am learning a lot).

So what IS the next city to be settled?

 

[Tubby Rower]

Blue dot, then spices, then purple, then furs, then yellow. That's the path I'm going to take the todo unless someone posts other wise.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Well I'm the one with that mandate and I'm glad my questionning of last page led to a conclusion like that Will be there and post in a sec.

 

[Tubby Rower]

B, when I said Purple I think that is your "blue" dot. It's a shame that guys don't have better color perception so that we can know what each other are talking about .

The Pink dot (one roughly in the center of the screenie) IMO should be after the yellow. The sole reason for that one is to get the spices hooked up quicker. I don't think that it will be necessary for a while yet. And at ~70% corruption it'll be just a territory expander mostly anyway.

The "blue" dot as gram has pointed out before would be sufficient to "back up" our fur city

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

When I understand properly I'll correct the main thread

EDIT: done and done, as well as the heart-attack prevention measure.

 

[Daghdha]

I don't follow here . Blue dot is already settled (Polecat) and the only blueish dot left is far W. The settler is going towards the red spot E of Ignoramus by the look of the save. Have I missed something? Is the settler taking a longer way to the spices just to intercept a warrior escort?

From latest post in Stupid Decisions:
1. What to settle ?
We'll settle
-blue dot
-spices
-blue-ish purple
-furs
-yellow.

 

[Crakie]

@Dagh

Since we indeed settled the blue dot, the next settler should be going towards the spices now. I haven't checked the save, but that's what we agreed on.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Indeed it is for the spices, and I think the settler was waiting for a compagny too.