Civ Design Challange VIII: Fictionland

[senshidenshi]

Okay, well, uh, what are the conditions for a new prompt? Not sure how broad or narrow I can be, 'Elder Scrolls' or 'Medieval-style High Fantasy', etc...

 

[inthesomeday]

I'd expect based on the first prompt the latter would be preferrable

 

[Arison]

Yeah, do something broader than a specific fictional 'verse.

 

[senshidenshi]

But if I make it too broad there's no challenge...

 

[Arison]

But if I make it too broad there's no challenge...

Then focus it a little. I think that this thread is going to reuse quite a lot of old challenges because it can be done.

 

[senshidenshi]

Fine, uh...

Low Fantasy

Have fun!

 

[Arison]

I can do fantasy

I think

Alcatraz

Leader: Areop Enap

UA: The Spider Queen: Animal resources decrease unit production time and all units gain +1 movement if starting on an animal tile.

UU: Spider: Unlike the Warrior it replaces, the Spider can travel over mountains and can be used to build the Web improvement.

UI: Web: Unlocked at Agriculture, the Web can be built on any tile and is invisible to enemy units. When an enemy unit moves onto a Web their turn ends and the Web is destroyed. May be built in neutral territory.

 

[TheSuperDodo]

As my signature might point out, we've landed in the territory of one of my favourite Video Game series.

Regna Ferox
Khan Basilio and Khan Flavia​

UA: Battle Politics
Gain a sum of culture whenever you declare a war or kill an enemy unit. Once every 15 turns, a tournament is held in your Capital, increasing culture and gold production for 5 turns and generating a Champion.
UU: Champion
Replaces Great General. In addition to the Great General's abilities, a Champion located within a city increases that city's strength and happiness.
UU: Myrmidon
Replaces Swordsman. While weaker than the swordsman it replaces with 11 strength, the Myrmidon has a movement of 3 and has a 25% chance to avoid combat whenever attacked.

I dunno if this civilization even works, but I had fun making it so oh well.

 

[inthesomeday]

Can I do Walking Dead

 

[TheSuperDodo]

I'd say you should keep the Walking Dead for a Post-Apocalypse prompt.

 

[Natan35]

What do you mean by "low fantasy"?

 

[senshidenshi]

What do you mean by "low fantasy"?

Low fantasy basically means it's a fantasy story set in a world where fantasy elements are not supposed to occur. Whether it's a fictional world or Earth, it's basically supposed to play by our rules. On the flipside, high fantasy stories typically take place in a fantastical setting. Whenever fantasy elements invade a story that's set on, say, Earth, it's probably low fantasy.

As my signature might point out, we've landed in the territory of one of my favourite Video Game series.

I dunno if this civilization even works, but I had fun making it so oh well.

I'd heavily argue that Fire Emblem is high fantasy rather than low, due to it being in a fictitious setting with magic in the mainstream, and the existence of creatures such as manaketes.
Also Valm is clearly superior to Regna Ferox

Can I do Walking Dead

I'd say it technically fits, but I'd probably need someone a bit more pedantic to confirm.

 

[TheSuperDodo]

I'm going to use TV Tropes' explanation of why Fire Emblem is low fantasy:

In the Fire Emblem series, the vast majority of characters are human, and conflicts are between human factions, with fantasy creatures usually portrayed as rare or legendary. In addition, most characters are non-magic-users, including almost all of the protagonists. Also, the games focus more on political maneuvering and grand strategy than typical fantasy quests.

But if you think Fire Emblem doesn't apply, it's okay. I'll just use this civ for a later prompt
Also you're probably right but I can't think of a good Valm design

 

[inthesomeday]

The Sanctuary
The Factory
Negan

UA: Something to Fear
Upon first encountering a unit of each major civilization, it takes damage and you gain gold based on its strength. Demanding tribute from city-states adds influence instead of detracting it.

UU: Savior
Replaces warrior. +50% Combat strength against barbarians, and barbarians do not ZOC. +50% Effectiveness when demanding tribute from city-states after earning first promotion.

UI: Wall of Walkers
Unlocked at bronze working. One may be built for each barbarian killed by your civilization and each enemy unit killed on another WoW. Enemy units ending a turn on a Wall of Walkers lose 50 HP, and the tile counts as rough terrain and ZOC for enemies.

 

[Arison]

I'm waiting for the Roarhaven under Vaurien Scapegrace or Ireland under Eachan Meritorious.

 

[Arison]

In case people don't understand low fantasy, it is any sort of fantastical tale set in the real world. Anything other than that is stepping into high fantasy. Even Keys to the Kingdom or anything from Rick Riordan's mythological books would be considered high fantasy containing our world rather than low fantasy.

Fire Emblem is high fantasy as it occurs in another world, where magic exists and legendary creatures are merely rare, like the Sumatran rhino. Harry Potter is low fantasy as it is magic that exists in our world. Lord of the Rings is high fantasy as it occurs in another world, where magic exists and legendary creatures are merely rare but still real. Skulduggery Pleasant is low fantasy as it is magic in the real world.

A very easy way to tell if you are in low fantasy is if magic is kept secret. If the majority of the population believe that magic exists and know it, then it's probably high fantasy. If it's in the real world, then it's probably low fantasy. If it's in a fictional world, it's probably high fantasy.

Hope this helps people.

 

[inthesomeday]

My second idea after Negan was gonna be Rufus Scrimgoeur over the Ministry of Magic, if anyone's flush for ideas

 

[Arison]

My second idea after Negan was gonna be Rufus Scrimgoeur over the Ministry of Magic, if anyone's flush for ideas

You could also do Hogwarts under Dumbledore or Umbridge, the Elders under Isis and Osiris or the Lower Elements Police under Julius Root. For anyone who wants to go seriously weird Preacher is classed as low fantasy.

 

[Arison]

I'd say it technically fits, but I'd probably need someone a bit more pedantic to confirm.

Walking Dead can be classified as low fantasy, as it exists in our world, but has non-real-world elements. Truthfully, it's a post-apocalyptic story setting, but it can be defined as a low fantastic post-apocalyptic story because the zombies aren't caused by an actual pathogen, but rather by 'something everyone already has' that activates after death to reanimate the body. Could be magic, so able to be stretched to say it's low fantasy.

 

[Troller0001]

Just to be sure, something such as the Portal franchise would qualify as low fantasy right?