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Civ Specific Great People

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Hoplite191, Feb 24, 2014.

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How would you like the Great People Names?

  1. Civ specific sounds interesting!

    21 vote(s)
    42.0%
  2. Nah leave it as it is.

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    58.0%
  1. Hoplite191

    Hoplite191 Chieftain

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    Does anybody else think that the names of Great people should be Civ specific. This way there would be a higher diversity of names and more people to learn about. It would be interesting to learn about all the different people that contributed and changed the Civilization we are playing as. It might even inspire more people as we no longer have just the mainstream ones but also the less known about ones. Please vote on whether or not you are a fan of this idea.
     
  2. lokithepunishr

    lokithepunishr Warlord

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    The problem with this idea is that many civs don't have certain great people, how many Aztec scientists can you name? Korean generals? Zulu merchants?
     
  3. Cedbird

    Cedbird Warlord

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    Good point Lokit.I voted leave it as is.But your thought is interesting.But also alot of research goes into the game.I want the Developers to focus on the game itself.Not details like this.good thought.
     
  4. seanflokstra7

    seanflokstra7 Prince

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    Well, it still looks ridiculous to get Chinese Maurice of Nassau or French Sun Tzu
     
  5. erisiamk

    erisiamk Chieftain

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    Perhaps a better solution would be to make Great Leaders into continental groups? So Zulu and Morocco would both get African Great People, Aztecs and Inca would get Native American Great People, etc. It's not perfect but it seems like the best of both worlds.
     
  6. Fabio1701

    Fabio1701 King

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    I don't even notice the names anymore. Besides the general, great people get used within 3 seconds when they appear and after use they might as well be dead. If this change was made, I wouldn't notice. A shame really, because I like having unique units that last a while named, as I might do for units with a specific set up upgrades to distinguish them, or I might name a great general to help me organize what war front he is on.
     
  7. cpm4001

    cpm4001 Goggleman

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    The idea sounds very interesting, but I think it would be extremely hard to implement simply because we don't know of many Babylonian Great Musicians or Mayan Great Merchants.
     
  8. Merciorum

    Merciorum Prince

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    The Koreans have plenty of great generals! And certainly admirals!

    But, yeah, this is a good point. There just aren't enough for some, or at least not enough known.
     
  9. KrikkitTwo

    KrikkitTwo Immortal

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    That seems like a good idea...as long as when your name list runs out, you start pulling from other name lists.

    So that they don't Need to add more names.
     
  10. AW Arcaeca

    AW Arcaeca Deus Vult

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    First, I'd like to point out that this would require modding, obviously, so someone who really wants this to happen should open a thread in the C&C forums.
    That really does seem like the only viable way to go. But it would probably be easier on the modders to group by artstyles, not continents. That way, you get, "South American" (which Mayans, Iroquois and Aztecs use, so I have no idea why it's 'south' American and not just, say, 'American'), "European", "Greco-Roman", "Middle Eastern" and "Asian" groups. I'm not sure if there are any Lua functions for detecting a civilization's continent, but there sure is one to detect its artstyle.
     
  11. Talcove

    Talcove Slayer of Spies

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    Please, tell me of the great Hunnic merchants and Scientists who graced the ruins of their conquest. ;)
     
  12. AW Arcaeca

    AW Arcaeca Deus Vult

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    *Goes through a list of important Hunnic people*

    How about Ardaric?
    Or perhaps Onegesius?
    Not really scientists per se, but probably less bloodthirsty then their friends. That's a start, I guess... :rolleyes:
     
  13. Viregel

    Viregel , The Rt. Hon.

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    Part of the fun of the game is to get the most ironic Great Person possible. I'm still in doubt as to what it actually is. So, I'm opposed to it on the grounds that it is absolutely hilarious.
     
  14. Tinker

    Tinker Prince

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    Not only would a lot of civs not have the right great people at all, the names as is also allows way more nations than in the game to get a little recognition. So no.
     
  15. TheMarshmallowBear

    TheMarshmallowBear Benelovent Chieftain of the BearKingdom

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    My rule of thumb is that the names are nothing more than "aestethics" element that you see for maximum of maybe 10 turns if not less.. (say you could bulb and save the GWAMs, but you usually expend the others as soon as you get them)

    My logic for the random names is that they are ethnic, they just chose to betray their motherland or have "moved" to other nations..

    Take Albert Einstein or Nikola Tesla, both of different ethnic backgrounds yet they are more or less American. (well, I think Einstein actually stayed in Germany, but from what I recall Nikola Tesla actually got his fame in America).
     
  16. project_ako

    project_ako Chieftain

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    Good solution. I'm all for it. I'm sure one can find people for each continental region or racial group, whether or not they're truly "great" people, whatever. It's better than getting Maurice Ravel the Siamese Rock Star in 1972, unless you're into that.
     
  17. Hoplite191

    Hoplite191 Chieftain

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    I like your idea its pretty good. I just thought it would be interesting to learn more about the Great People. I am interested in that sort of thing and getting a Great Person who i know little about always prompts me to look up and read about their achievements.

    And to the guy that said that Nikola Tesla achieved more fame in America. I say though he did he was still ridiculed by Americans. He was not granted the right to be called the inventor of Radio until after his death and after another person stole his ideas trying to say they were his own. But that is off topic.

    Also AgressiveWimp nice find!
     
  18. LoneRebel

    LoneRebel Emperor

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    The Persian Leonidas is the first that comes to mind.
     
  19. Krajzen

    Krajzen Deity

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    Roman Hannibal and Carthaginian Scipio Africanus are awesome :D
     
  20. cpm4001

    cpm4001 Goggleman

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    Tesla was born in Serbia, went to France briefly, then came to America. He then got ripped off by Edison, got semi-famous by inventing 99% of the stuff we take for granted today (and had most of that ripped off by other people, like Marconi), and then his OCD got the better of him and he died in utter obscurity amongst his pigeons.

    But on-topic: @KingOfBigOz makes a good point. In-game, a Great Person might make great discoveries/constructions/works of art/etc. in one Civilization (the civ they were "born in") but you could imagine that they actually came from another Civ.
     

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