Civ VI - Beta Gauntlet I

[UnforcedError]

Great People slots:

As of normal buildings...
Temples --> 1 relic; amphitheatres --> 1 book; art museum --> 3 pieces of art; archaeological museum --> 3 artifacts; broadcast center --> 1 music piece
Wonders:
Palace --> 1 wildcard slot; TGL --> 2 books; Bolshoi --> 1 book, 1 music piece, Mt Michel --> 2 relics; Hermitage --> 3 pieces of art; Oxford --> 2 books; Broadway --> 1 book, 1 music piece; Sydney Opera --> 2 music pieces
And there is a GM that can create a bank with 2 wildcard slots.

I don't think the # of TRs matter, either. However, according to the posts earlier on the necessary accumulated tourism: if this is correct, then it's actually vital to meet everybody as early as possible (which may or may not be feasible without Cartography).

EDIT: different religions and Enlightenment only affect religious GWs (relics and religious art?)
The Christo Redentor counters the Enlightenment malus.

 

[Xger]

Is there a list of which buildings/wonders/etc give slots for which type of great works? The civilopedia is not very helpful.

Also, methods for increasing foreign tourism? Anything besides trade routes and open borders? Does it matter the number of trade routes? And open borders would be my borders open to the other civ, right? Does it matter if they grant me open borders?

Sorry for the total newb questions, I haven't won a cultural victory since civ III....

I'm unaware of a listing at least in game. You might try on the wiki.

Foreign Tourism is just a function of the amount of tourism you have. You should get more tourists over time as you generate tourism. You can only generate them with Civs you have meet.

There are a few policies, one religious belief, and a few techs that increase tourism. As for open borders, if it is one sided, you paying the civ.

I don't think the # of TRs matter, either. However, according to the posts earlier on the necessary accumulated tourism: if this is correct, then it's actually vital to meet everybody as early as possible (which may or may not be feasible without Cartography).

The other option is to eliminate them if they have the highest number of domestic tourists. Also, there are occasionally continents maps with shallow water bridges. So it is also critical to get out early galleys and search.

 

[Xger]

So I just noticed this restart button mod. Thought it might be useful here...

Edit: It may not actually work, so use at your own risk

 

[DanQuayle]

T110 "One Relic" CV
Tribal village relic and 3 AIs on continent
America forward settled me giving the opportunity to send a fast early trade route
Almost had a low T90s win, but the foreign tourist requirement jumped by one unexpectedly one turn too soon, so I had to wait for a whole other round.
Conquered Aachen really late in game to get Germany's relic which he wouldn't want to sell me at any price. I got his relic one turn before victory so it had no impact on the game.
It appears you only need to hold the foreign tourist requirement for one turn as my final post-victory screen shows.

Spoiler :

 

[Ozbenno]

T110 "One Relic" CV
Tribal village relic and 3 AIs on continent

Well done Mr Ex-Vice President we have a new leader

It appears you only need to hold the foreign tourist requirement for one turn as my final post-victory screen shows.

I noticed this as well.

 

[UnforcedError]

T110 "One Relic" CV

Very nice! Also, your game actually proves that you don't need to know everyone on the map to win by culture.

 

[Denniz]

I almost had a good one. Early relic. Found Kandy before finding any wonders. But every time I got suzerain and start exploring again, Japan would take Kandy back. Usually the next turn.

 

[UnforcedError]

But every time I got suzerain and start exploring again, Japan would take Kandy back. Usually the next turn.

So why didn't you kill Japan?

 

[Denniz]

So why didn't you kill Japan?

I was sub-optimizing military for districts and buildings. In any case, he was too far away.

 

[mayhemster]

T107, I think this will be my last attempt as it is quite frustrating getting what you need for a decent attempt at this.

I was alone on my largish continent, but had Kandy and 4 other uncontested city states. They helped me get my cities built up without the need for much military, so I thought it might be worth a shot.

4 relics total:
1 from early hut
1 relic from NW at the north of my continent
1 relic traded from victoria who I found alone on an island well before I could get to before Cartography. I got the relic for 1 luxury and 11 GPT which seems cheap to me...
1 relic discovered from a NW on the other continent

I shut down attempts by opponents to get a majority religion so had 120 tourism per turn on most and 150 tourism per turn on those i managed to get a trade route with so it didn't matter that I didn't find most of them until between turns 80-90.

 

[IgrOK[SU]]

Did someone got TWO relics from a hut?

 

[Ozbenno]

T107, I think this will be my last attempt as it is quite frustrating getting what you need for a decent attempt at this.

New fast time for the gauntlet.

 

[IgrOK[SU]]

I think we should ban an infinite gold bug here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threa...n-100-science-challenge.603285/#post-14553040

 

[Ozbenno]

I think we should ban an infinite gold bug here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threa...n-100-science-challenge.603285/#post-14553040

Agreed, added to opening post.

 

[Denniz]

T155 is not a great time but it is better than Ozbenno's, so I have to post.

Two relics from Kandy\Natural Wonders and two from Yerevan\Martyrs.

 

[Kjellstroem]

What can cause an opponent to get a sudden jump in Culture? I was at something like 9/12 Tourism when an AI attacked me and I had to concentrate on defending for a few turns. When things calmed down I looked at the culture tab and now I was at 12/23. This was around turn 110.

 

[DanQuayle]

1 relic traded from victoria who I found alone on an island well before I could get to before Cartography. I got the relic for 1 luxury and 11 GPT which seems cheap to me...

I also got Victoria to sell me her relic in one of my games.
Frederick and Teddy however have never ever wanted to sell me their relic at any price so far.
Maybe there are some AIs willing to sell it while others will not.
More testing needed on that front...

 

[Ozbenno]

T155 is not a great time but it is better than Ozbenno's, so I have to post.

I mean, well done

 

[mayhemster]

What can cause an opponent to get a sudden jump in Culture? I was at something like 9/12 Tourism when an AI attacked me and I had to concentrate on defending for a few turns. When things calmed down I looked at the culture tab and now I was at 12/23. This was around turn 110.

I still haven't worked out how Domestic Tourists are calculated. At the end of my last game the situation on the culture screen is:

Germany - 8 Tourism per turn, 7.2 Culture per turn, 3 Domestic Tourists. I had 3 Tourists with them, Open Borders & Trade Route
Sumeria - 8 Tourism per turn 7.8 Culture per turn, 11 Domestic Tourists, I had 2 Tourists with them, Open Borders
Norway - 11 Tourism per turn, 2.9 Culture per turn, 4 Domestic Tourists, I had 2 Tourists with them
America - 11 Tourism per turn, 4.6 Culture per turn, 7 Domestic Tourists, I had 1 Tourist with them, Open Borders & Different Majority Religion
England - 0 Tourism per turn, 3.7 Culture per turn, 0 Domestic Tourists, I had 5 Tourists with them, Open Borders & Trade Route
I had 104 Tourism per turn, 31.4 Culture per turn, 26 Domestic Tourists

I must be missing something important here because I can't see any correlation in the numbers provided there..

 

[vadalaz]

I believe a civ gets a domestic tourist for every 100 culture they generate. I only ran one test in a game where I had 50 cpt, but there's this in GlobalParameters.xml:

<Row Value="2" Name="TOURISM_BASE_FROM_WONDER"/>
<Row Value="3" Name="TOURISM_CONFLICTING_GOVERNMENT_MULTIPLIER"/>
<Row Value="100" Name="TOURISM_CULTURE_PER_CITIZEN"/>
<Row Value="50" Name="TOURISM_DIFFERENT_RELIGION_REDUCTION"/>
<Row Value="8" Name="TOURISM_FROM_HOLY_CITY"/>
<Row Value="25" Name="TOURISM_OPEN_BORDERS_BONUS"/>
<Row Value="150" Name="TOURISM_TOURISM_TO_MOVE_CITIZEN"/>
<Row Value="25" Name="TOURISM_TRADE_ROUTE_BONUS"/>

It also says 150 tourism to move a citizen, but in this gauntlet it seems to take 900 tourism with a civ to get a visiting tourist... So the formula might be 150 * number of civs on the map?