Civ3 GOTM 12 Results Posted

[Matrix]

No, Ribannah, it is reloading in an illegal manner. Don't do it next time. There are other ways (like making the (un)happy citizens clearer to see) to counter-effect rioting.

By the way, does that really matter that much: preventing a city from rioting? I never check my cities before the end of the turn and make my city happier when it is rioting.

 

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by ainwood
I wouldn't have thought that checking your city in a OCC is that onerous....

LOL - of course in my OCC games even I can manage happiness in the normal way, so it appears that in the games I actually submitted I have not commited a crime.
The games that I didn't play OCC I couldn't submit because I was unable to finish in time ....

Originally posted by Matrix
By the way, does that really matter that much: preventing a city from rioting? I never check my cities before the end of the turn and make my city happier when it is rioting.

You lose production, food and commerce from that city for the turn.
Note: there is annoying bug that may display cities rioting the turn you chose a new government, while in fact they aren't (the screen is still based on happiness under anarchy, but the calculations correctly measure happiness under the new government).

 

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by civ_steve
While I agree that reloading may be a quicker way to prevent rioting than checking each city, there is no way to differentiate between reloading for this purpose and reloading for a clearly improper reason.

That holds for the allowed reasons for reloading, too.

There is basically only one (still limited) way to check for cheating: to demand that everyone keeps a written log of the game, so that suspicious cases of extreme luck can become apparent.
This is how we ran the old Civ2 OCC challenges, and it was very entertaning to see those logs posted, too. Of course there were only a handful of us at the time, but I would enjoy reading the game logs of the top scorers.

 

[Kemal]

Originally posted by Ribannah
Note: there is annoying bug that may display cities rioting the turn you chose a new government, while in fact they aren't (the screen is still based on happiness under anarchy, but the calculations correctly measure happiness under the new government).

I believe the domestic advisor recalculates the mood of your citizens each time you move the science/luxury sliders. So when facing such a problem (which also happens when losing/acquiring a luxury during a turn) just move your science/luxury slider up and back once to see the correct display of citizen moods.

 

[civ_steve]

It does, but you still have to compare # of happy heads to # of unhappy heads. This can be very time-consuming for a large empire! (The Civ2 Attitude Advisor would also change the color of the Name of the city from Red to White, clearly showing that the city has been brought out of disorder. Civ3 F1 Advisor doesn't do this.)

If I'm cognizant enough of my cities' statuses, I'll adjust prior to riot (typically early on or small # of cities.) Later on, with large # of cities, if 1 or 2 do riot the effect is not as significant. (Still, this is annoying, because the choice is to diminish your game result a bit vs diminish your game enjoyment by constantly checking. Firaxis shouldn't punish the players, their customers, like this!)

 

[Moonsinger]

Originally posted by Yndy
2. Manual checking - which takes time

Ever since I upgraded the smiley graphics, it's so easy to manually check for unhappiness. Instead of checking for it city by city, I just go to the advisor screen and look at the list of cities. Take about 2 seconds to look at that list (I normally have at least 300 cities in my game; so we are not talking about a small list here).

 

[Cartouche Bee]

And the GOTM rules clearly states "Most importantly, it is not allowed to reload. Only when the game crashes or you accidentally press the wrong button you may continue from an autosave, but otherwise never."

I guess if you don't have a crash or press the wrong button you have to play the game through to the end, nonstop. Thank goodness for crashes and button pressing.

 

[Ribannah]

Reminds me of Earth: 2025 when we had a huge war going on. Staying online 24/7 was required as to survive a full-blown attack you had to play turns. Since I had to be around anyway I traded my way to the top, placing new orders the moment the last batch was sold.

I just downloaded the smiley heads. I was #1024 to do so, a magic number!

 

[MPF]

To change the subject here:

WOW, i ended 5th place and am now in the green in the global ranking. Gosh, very proud of myself as no one else has noticed this. :jump:

Thanks all for all the good game-play advice.

Matrix, hope you keep up the good work, CIV-life woudn't be the same without the challanging of GOM.

MPF

 

[Iver-P]

Again, I ask:

What do the color codes mean in the global ranking?

Note, it really doesn't matter much for me since I am solidly in the grey. <sigh>

 

[Matrix]

Iver-P, they don't mean sh*t. It's just a psycological border, which I added just for fun and because it looks better.

 

[ProPain]

What a day, just saw I'm 6th in gotm11, 9th in gotm12, and 2nd in tournie 3-1 leader div.

All those hours of wasting my life behind the pc are finally paying off

Think I have to continue gotm 13 after all and try to get in top 25 global ranking.

ProPain