Civ3's Golden Age has begun

[Keroro]

I heard World of Warcraft was turn based combat too. I think that stinks for a MMORPG. Great for single player games when you aren't really focused. Great when youhave kids, but stinks as far as excitement goes. This is a little off topic isn't it?

er, still off topic, but the Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights games have a turn based system that runs in real time, and I assume that World of Warcraft is the same - the engine runs in turns, but the user interface will feel like it's real time. And excitement is never in short supply in Neverwinter Nights. (disengaging off topic mode.)

(back on topic) One thing that should be noted, IIRC the graphics engine in Civ 4 is the same as the one in 'Pirates!'.

 

[Kyriakos]

If i had been a programmer i would be trying to make a utility that allows the use of animated city files. A few frames would really bring civ3 cities to life

 

[T.A JONES]

If i had been a programmer i would be trying to make a utility that allows the use of animated city files. A few frames would really bring civ3 cities to life

I really wish they brough back the city view screen. Remember that screen they never used for the Conquest sceanarios?. It be cool to see a city get packed with tons of more buildings like a casino and amusment park etc..I always tried to fill my screen up as much as possible. Imagine a game with twice the building to add mybe even scroll fromm side to side and up and down, to enjoy them all in the modern age. Also the terrain was always well reflected in the backround of the 'City view'. If you were on a plains tile adjacent a mountain, or a river tile, you saw that feature in the backround of your city. Ahh memories

Even better have a flic file for the improvments to add lil animations just the same as units are made only its a casino thats sign lights up or a wonder that has a water fall splash down.
Having a option that limits the amount of animations that run at one time would prevent things from looking to busy

This would add a great modding aspect and improve the 'builders' game tremdously!! really it would be a huge plus for players who like to build everything, Just think how much cooler Wonders would be if you could watch them glisten in the sun or see a little bird swoop onto its roof.

Also with the look of citys on the actual map, I never like the big polygon look of improvments in Civ4
Civ3 had a good way of showing the citys on the map. Expand Using more then ' five 'unique culture 'looks', Make em' change a ' extra time' so twice each era to refelect coming of age. then they had 3 differant sizes as they got bigger. Lets have a even smaller size and a even larger size!

Your smart man. I was brainstorming on a "New ideas for CIv3" thread about 4months ago. The same thing came into my head, and I enjoy your city sets, I was thinkin your one of guys whod be able to light up mods with the tools at the time. Now your on my thread talkin it, Thats crazy man! (cool I mean)

Actually Im seeing some of your work in the Heart of destiny mod Im playing right now, If its not your sets , ithe artists style has benifited from your influence alot!.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well in theory the Plague function could be altered so as to use it to create a city animation, which of course would have to be specific for each city set

If its properties can be changed so that it has no effect at all (i am not sure how hard/easy that is; i do not remember how editable this is in the c3c editor) then it can be purely cosmetic, and from there everything is possible. The animation could be periodic, and then the "plague" can be frequent, so you would see it a lot. Thus smoke coming out of chimneys would be easy to produce, and more importantly if the sets have a uniformity (eg the chimneys are always in the same pixels) the animation can be correct for the entire duration of the game, for all city sets, nomatter how different

edit: it would seem that no programming is needed, since by setting the plague power to 0 i think that it has no effects at all. Now the only things that should be changed is the txt file (which one is it?) which included the message on the screen when the plague is happening (the message should be erased) and the animation itself. Where is the txt file and the animation? (I plan to make a first animated set )

edit2: It would seem that by using the power, grace period, and duration options, there could be no negative effect while the "plague" lasts (?) Since i never used plagues i am not sure of that.

 

[T.A JONES]

Right, the plague thats intresting..... i was right, you are the right artist for the job. At least we can work with that view of citys

Id also like to see The CITY VIEW make a nice comeback. if it was accessibl to animations are guy could work on making things like Hanging Gardens come alive. Id prefer just wonders and important stuff to have a animation file that would activate when you hit the view vity button.

Join the Sim City aspect back to Civ series. I mean, watch your city flourish, but through the ages.
It takes so much work think of all the image animations changing for some improvmewnts as eras turn anew, and differant animations for differnt cultural groups. Ya your talkin a lot of work, but over time are modders would have enriched the game to unheard of levels

making that whole new system for Civ4, doing it and so ugly, Man I hate seeing that. We could have had a great base(artist's palletee) that are artists could have made thrive, making citys come alive.

Oh well no looking back on what 'could be' We know Civ3 foundation was solid only after we got to expierencew the new shaky, memory sucking failure they decided on, to save money and time. Hind sight's always 20/20

 

[Plotinus]

I believe that there is a way to make the city view work in a scenario or mod. You simply have to entitle your mod "Conquests". Not really an ideal solution, but I'm told that it works. Never tried it, though.

 

[T.A JONES]

urggh! must stop checking the ratings! dam I never used to noticed.Now after a few upsets( CONQ beating CIV) Im finding myself checking out the forums viewership, comparing the numbers why? I know it can't be a real indicater of anything, still I feel I gotta take a pulse, make sure she's still beating. Good news She's alive and well!

More eveidence the Rena--blah-suance(can't spell) is upon us!
Last few times Civ4 has beat the big C in the oven threads (C+C forum )
Thats not the News, heres the weird thing. I noticed just 5 minutes ago man your not gunna belive this, the GEN DIS forum had beat out Civ4, ya I know 24-17. Oh Ya Im aware they split from WArlords but then I saw only 11 were on that forum , so still thats practically a tie with a new X pack disscusson factored in ....

whats with so many on Civ3 gen dis forum all of a sudden, strange night for a game thats really getting old. See Im telling ya man, If this keeps up, one day this Game will become engrained, culture driven like chess but to lesser extent of course.
I mean, I wonder how many times some topics have resurfaced over the span of a few years. lots of generations are coming and going they all get attached a lil bit and they teach their kids one day, thats how it starts....., serious!!

 

[T.A JONES]

Darn looks like my vision was mostly right. except its not on console yet!

I had a bad vision I have to share. All that talk bout a new expansion possibly, had me worked up a bit, till it sank in:

2K games is heading to the consoles with Ciivilization CLASSICS, That means 2and 3, hell even one, all bundled heres where the mods fit in, plus the best mods RFRE and DRIFT's as 'bonus DVD-like' options

Check the link http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/07/2k...e-pc/#comments

 

[Doom666]

Civ 4 sucks... And i wasted almost 50€ on it. I tell you, i was really angry when i played it.

 

[Ozymandias]

Civ 4 sucks... And i wasted almost 50€ on it. I tell you, i was really angry when i played it.

If it's any consolation, you're not anywhere near alone ...

Best,

Oz

 

[T.A JONES]

urggh! must stop checking the ratings! dam I never used to noticed.Now after a few upsets( CONQ beating CIV) Im finding myself checking out the forums viewership, comparing the numbers why? I know it can't be a real indicater of anything, still I feel I gotta take a pulse, make sure she's still beating. Good news She's alive and well!

8:40 pm Civ3 takes the polls tonight over Civ4 89 to 78 in the C+C threads. Chalk up another strong pulse taken from the True strategy champ......or maybe its just Civ4 getting soft.

 

[Goldflash]

What in the world is this thread still doing around? Let it die, people.

 

[T.A JONES]

Nah I might rename it, its named wrong I meant renaissance not golden age. Golden age is very misleading. Im showing that Civ3 is in fact still the better version by giving proof of its everlasting popularity. Thats why Im logging ever time I see our C+C thread is more viewed then Civ4 on any given night, when I notice that is, Im sure Ive even missed a few occasions. All the other comments are welcomed,even yours( thanks for the bump!)

Lets face it theres lots of unintresting threads on this forum why pick on this one. Its got nothing constructive to follow concering another mod to play, is that it?. It does have a purpose. I think its funny what Firaxians insist is best chapter in the series gets beat by a dino at last 3-4 times a week. Why not let it be know?. Other threads are so much more important? well some, but this isn't worth booing!. Its a good example of a real opinion poll (what is Civ if its not modding). Sales tell nothing, everyone already owns civ3

Add on: Actually after the Mac release we got this new legacy release that will fuel Civ3 some more. Anyone in their right mind(thats all we want here)who decides to enter the Civ series by picking this up should, find the 3rd installment the better game and therfore raise the potential modding audience a bit more in doing so

 

[T.A JONES]

Its happen tonight 59 to 58 for Civ3 over its sequel in the modding thread. Don't no how long that lead lasted, still kind of strange Civ3 ever got ahead in the first place considering Warlords and Civ4 vanilla use the same C+C thread.

No need to reply just had to make a note. the time it occured is on the post! Man! whats happing to Civ4 modders this is occuring more and more often.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Currently, it's 63-52 in Civ III's favour. It seems to be this time of day that Civ III gets the better of Civ IV - therefore could it be a regional preference? Are many of the Civ IV modders tucked up in bed and soundly asleep at this time?

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Americans probably like Civ4 more. That would explain it.

No wait. It's the canadians.
Blame Canada!!!

Sorry, i just remembered that cartoon.

 

[TopGun]

Haven't felt the desire to buy Civ IV and I'm sure I never will. Civ III - even with its known drawbacks - is the best turn-based strategy game out there. Add to that the sheer endless mod-ability and supply of custom graphics... man you got a winner!

EDIT: oops

 

[Stormrage]

Best turn-based strategy gay out there?

 

[Ozymandias]

Haven't felt the desire to buy Civ IV and I'm sure I never will. Civ III - even with its known drawbacks - is the best turn-based strategy gay [sic] out there. Add to that the sheer endless mod-ability and supply of custom graphics... man you got a winner!

I actually bought Civ4, played it for about half an hour, then put it back on the shelf to gather cobwebs. Perusing the modding forums for the game gives me migraines. It's not even that so much knowledge is required to achieve proportionally little, it's that integration of different ideas can be contradictory within the code/files/scripts -- and man does it ever neeed modding. Given the graphics and AI, the overall effect reminds me of the worst of Rise Of Nations and Civ2 mixed in Dr. Frankenstein's lab. Bleh.

-Oz

 

[T.A JONES]

79 to 73, Civ3 in the lead again, a little earlier tonight, hmm mybe the Civ4 modders like to get their sleep. I hope there moms arn't sending them to bed without any supper.

Serious though, its all the time now Conquests has a real footing on the modding Biz. Has anyone considered The releases that are set for the next few monthes? That includes expansion on hit mods(can't wait Heretic cata, don't forget the pedia ) We can continue to assume A python has nothing compared to the incredible hold Civ3 has on this forum, and thanks to the talent it won't relingish any time soon.

I know you don't here me saying anything when were getting clobbered and thats 1 cause its becoming increasingly rare, and 2, cause on all acounts according to the press, seemingly endless fanboy and the paid posters acclaims and quotes of the best chapter yet, we should be getting raped on particapation and 'interest' ratings all the time. This is not the case however. I mean imagine If Civ2 was doing this ta Civ3 monthes after PtW was in stores.And Civ2 was a classic. A lot Less modable though I imagine,wait a minute does that even matter?

Edit: sorry I had to clean up another grammermental disaster and ended up filling it in a lot