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Civ5 - shipping with Steamworks * plus Digital Deluxe Edition

Discussion in 'News Updates' started by V. Soma, May 6, 2010.

  1. V. Soma

    V. Soma CFC Staff

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    Here you can read the announcement of 2K Games and Valve:

    It deserves to be quoted in its entirety:

    EDIT:

    Info on pricing:

    Scheduled to launch this September, the Standard Edition will set you back $49.99/€49.99/£29.99, while the Digital Deluxe Edition, including an exclusive scenario, goes for an inflated $59.99/€59.99/£39.99
     
  2. arstal

    arstal Say No 2 Net Validations

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    Preorder DLC?

    Forced use of monopoly DRM/DD platform? (I'm ok with Steam, but not forced Steam for non-Valve games)

    I'll play Elemental: War of Magic instead. No sale.
     
  3. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier

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    Sod. Followed by Off. Haven't companies learnt anything about forcing "online capabilities" on people?
     
  4. Loser

    Loser Chieftain

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    That is disappointing but expected. I was hoping there would be a deluxe edition with useless nic-naks and charts. I was hopping to get one of those as Civ is my all time favorite series.
     
  5. V. Soma

    V. Soma CFC Staff

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    At least we have some new info on the game and its way of development
     
  6. Gedemo

    Gedemo Cacique

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    So Nebuchadnezzar II 's Babylon will be the 19th civ?
     
  7. SammyKhalifa

    SammyKhalifa Chieftain

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    Rights issues and such aside, I've never had anything but trouble with trying to put Steam on any PC I've used. It turned my old one into a doorstop until I removed it.
     
  8. Mannu

    Mannu Chieftain

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    tis a slippery slope indeed
     
  9. salaminizer

    salaminizer Colorado Internacional

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    what's the point of ingame pre-order exclusives with mods available?

    and the space sim X³ was patched with Steam achievements recently, and if you mod your game you can't get any achievements, even if you're using cosmetic mods like cockpit (and the devs support modding like Firaxis does). hopefully it won't be the same with Civ.
     
  10. Rirse

    Rirse Chieftain

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    Torchlight, which is also a game that uses Steam achievements actually WANTS you to use mods, since a few of the achievements only unlock if you are using X number of mods.
     
  11. Bastian-Bux

    Bastian-Bux Chieftain

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    Sadly this means that I'll probably not buy this version of Civilization. No Steam is coming close to my computer. Maybe this community should try to give Firaxis a little suggestion (like a few tens of thousands of posts: we wont buy steam) to avoid such an economical suizide?
     
  12. salaminizer

    salaminizer Colorado Internacional

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    ah yeah, good point, forgot about that one, I even own it and used mods too :lol:
     
  13. Lillefix

    Lillefix I'm serious. You can.

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    So you have to install Steam to use it?
    What is really the point of shipping it with Steam? Because it doesn't prevent pirating.
     
  14. SammyKhalifa

    SammyKhalifa Chieftain

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    You know, looking at the benefits we'll "enjoy," I can't say that a single one of them is important to me.
     
  15. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    At first I read this as "steam version will have bonuses", but does it really mean that there is no independant retail version? Seems so uh. Well I don't have a problem with it personally, except for the potential for ******-baits like DLC you have to pay for and microtransactions. Stop being so gullible people.
     
  16. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier

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    I remember in the speculation thread that someone was panicking that it would be Steam-compulsory and was quickly dismissed as being a stupid idea and rightly so. Now look what's happened.
     
  17. t0mme

    t0mme Great Red One

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    What's next? Do I need to be online all the time, like Silent Hunter 5, Assassin's Creed 2 and Settlers 7? That would be an immediate no buy.
     
  18. kroket

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    I can't believe they have really gone this path!! They ensured us in interviews they would not! Forced Steam?! I DO NOT WANT TO USE STEAM!!
    Civ 5 DELUXE with a NEW civilization! Will these not lead to incompatibility issues!? Hello?? What are they thinking?! Won't it be modded in anyway?! This is ridicilous and i will seriously rethink buying Civ 5 now. Really looking forward to the game and they pull THIS off?! What are they thinking?! I DO NOT WANT TO BE FORCED TO USE STEAM! Optional = ok

    EDIT: petition anyone?! Seems like thats needed
     
  19. mattigus

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    So instead of making the game Steam-compulsory, they gave everyone an incentive by adding a MAP PACK to the Steam version. Guess it's time to start panicking, right?

    This is one of the reasons I can't stand this site. The company announces the game will be available on Steam and come with a map pack, and that a special edition will come with extra stuff, and all anyone can do here is :):):):):) and moan. As a matter of fact, :):):):):)ing and moaning is all I see on this site. Some fans you are.
     
  20. happyturtle

    happyturtle Mrs GrumpyOldCivver

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    Why are people thinking this is Steam only? I already pre-ordered mine from Amazon UK. :dunno:
     
  21. V. Soma

    V. Soma CFC Staff

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    Isn't it so that Steam is just an OPTION, not compulsory?
     
  22. SammyKhalifa

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    It might just be bad wording, but it sure sounds to me like you're going to need to use it.
     
  23. V. Soma

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    I do hope "all PC versions" only means that vanilla and then the EPs - EDIT: optional use!
     
  24. arstal

    arstal Say No 2 Net Validations

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    If that is case, I will take back my gripe. I don't think it is though, and won't until I see confirmation.

    BTW, our rights as consumers are only as strong as our ability to say no. If they did Ubi DRM (which is much worse) , you'd probably be saying the same thing. We all knew this game would be on Steam anyways, so Steam as an option wouldn't have been newsworthy- this sounds like enforced Steamworks to me, which means no buy.

    No Impulse or Gamersgate version no buy.
     
  25. MikusR

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    Steamworks basically means you WILL have to install Steam and activate your game even when installing from DVD.
     
  26. kroket

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    That looks pretty clear to me i am afraid. In all honesty i have never used steam before but i do not want to... All the complaints make me all scary of this stuff... Besides i want to own a game and not borrow it if you know what i mean. This blunder of epic proportions might lead to large scale piracy rather stupid of firaxis really. They are presenting it like as if it is something good.
    Limiting peoples options like this is a blunder of epic proportions and the ones who came up with this should get fired... Really what are they thinking??

    EDIT: I might just buy the standalone Fall from Heaven instead, i suppose Kael hasnt lost HIS mind
     
  27. Sphinx

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    I'm liking this!

    I'm very excited and will get the Deluxe as soon as i can.
     
  28. happyturtle

    happyturtle Mrs GrumpyOldCivver

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    I know nothing about Steamworks. What would it mean if I'm required to use it?

    I'm not a frequent flyer, but I am looking forward to being able to play Civ on the plane when I go to see my parents next month. No online access in the sky, of course, not that Civ 5 will be out by then.
     
  29. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    You can play games in offline mode with Steam. So you don't need to be online, unless Civ 5 itself requires you to be online, which would be the game's fault and not Steam.

    You will receive the box from amazon UK, but it will still install Steam on your computer and use Steam and you will have to use a Steam account, that's the way it's worded. You won't even need the disc anymore. In fact, you won't even need the disc to install the game after you've activated your game on your Steam account. The disc, in this case, just allows you to install the game from disc instead of having to download it. The truth is the disc becomes kind of obsolete after the first few patches compared to the Steam download you will have access to. Total War has gone this path and I could basically throw my disc away now that it's registered in my Steam account.
     
  30. croxis

    croxis Chat room op

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