Civics rework 2.00

[Opera]

Yeah, that should be pretty easy to make it display closer to the message thing. I think it is at this height because the messages can be quite long sometimes.

About the screen content itself, since you played RoM, you should know zappara changed the screen in it. Ahwaric doesn't like it but maybe you do? According to xienwolf, it's actually better to make more categories.

 

[Valkrionn]

It's only better because it can scroll. I hear there are some issues adding help text to the civics with it though... Possible, but requires a line of python for each line of text?

 

[Isotope]

About the screen content itself, since you played RoM, you should know zappara changed the screen in it. Ahwaric doesn't like it but maybe you do? According to xienwolf, it's actually better to make more categories.

It's practical and you can see all effects well but you can't have an overview of all civics and you must scroll. Personally, I changed it to the old model that someone in modmods offered.

On second thought, there's no important need to move civics screen, just make it wider.

 

[xienwolf]

Anything that annoys me tends to be fairly short lived. The Civic screen changed a LOT from when WarKirby leaked a screenie of it. At this point, I struggle to find any down side to it personally. Of course, I don't play that often, so that isn't saying TOO much...

 

[Opera]

Another screenie maybe..?

 

[xienwolf]

Main problem is that we are talking about scrolling and mouseovers, so a screenshot doesn't really WORK to show what is up with the screen. And the fact that right now all screenshots I attempt to take are coming out pure black. But I resorted to a normal screenshot and photoshop so I could toss you something.

Top bar scrolls to the left and right, only displays small icons for the civics you currently can switch to, and allows mouseover help for any of them. Clicking on a small icon will set you up to switch to that civic, so you can control all your civics without having to scroll down, and can control up to 2 more civic categories without having to scroll over on the quickview either. Quickviews only support up to 10 options in each category, and the help information parses automatically, no silly "12 lines of python and 30 lines of DLL" for each and every possible Civic effect (and even then some weren't covered at all, like the happiness on buildings for Religion Civic)

 

[Valkrionn]

Oooh I like that. Very nice work!

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

that's awesome, xienwolf. great job

 

[Valkrionn]

Xienwolf, any chance that the new screen hides civics that are civ-specific?

 

[xienwolf]

There is always a chance. If you want to know for yourself I would say that you should be able to tell from that screenshot and the knowledge that I am playing as the Illians and it is in about the middle of the game.

 

[Valkrionn]

Hmm... Seeing as Traditions, Tribal Law, and Glory aren't listed in those categories, it appears so. Wanted to make sure.

 

[Opera]

For once, I had it before! Yeah

 

[Opera]

Hi Isotope!

Just so you know, it would be much helpful if you used the Editor to make your changes. I was going to update your modmod to the current version (or rather the next) of LE but I hold off myself because it's a bit tedious.

Also, how is the update going?

 

[Isotope]

Sorry for being abscent. I was doing paperwork to enter university and put civ4 off for some days. I'll post an update in a few days.
Editor? Could you be more specific about this program (if I google "Editor" I doubt it will be of any use).
I'm using Notepad++ right now.

 

[Opera]

There's an xlsm file packed with Orbis and available in LE's thread. You can open it with Excel 2007 and do modifications on it rather than directly on the xml files. It's great to mod things easily

 

[Isotope]

I checked it. Is it just a typo or it's version 0.35beta2 ?

 

[Opera]

Ah, forgot to update them. Should be ok, now.

 

[Isotope]

Updated. It seems I got late.
Regarding using xlsm. I will see. It's easier to work with xml files.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

the last version of LE is actually 0.37, will this work fine with it?

edit: and Orbis 0.24 patch C instead of B

 

[Isotope]

I think it should work (downloading latest verisons of Orbis and LE) since there aren't many changes and they are not related to civics or civilopedia. It should work fine.