Very thoughtful contributions which would make the UB Royal Mounted Police a more useful and historically representative UB. I'm inclined to agree with previous posts that Grand Railway Hotel might take away from the Chateau Frontenac wonder, so if we can fix the RCMP UB then that would probably be ideal. The role of the Mounted Police may well still be better represented by a UB than UU, though I still think the name needs work. We call the other building a constabulary not a constable, so why call it a Royal Mounted Police...? I like the stability idea, I initially thought about the RCMP as a settler could provide extra stability in the new settlement but it seemed too out there and could just be covered by Canada's stability parameters, but as a building it seems more reasonable because it is something you have to choose to build, whereas settling is mandatory.That's fair, but the RCMP are only kind of police. They are a paramilitary organization that we use as our local police in much of Canada (Yes, I know police is in the name, but they're a hybrid). Historically, they were our border guard, customs agents, anti-espionage, and military in the western half of the country, in addition to police. It's true that your average local detachment of the RCMP is less armed than many American police departments, but the RCMP as a whole does have military equipment that they use for larger operations.
All that said, I can still see the argument to not including them as a military unit. It would really only make sense for RCMP/NWMP to be a military unit if some of the Indigenous civs that they fought were added. It could work to make them a spy unit with extra domestic actions, since their function past and present has centred on enforcing Canadian sovereignty internally (or in land claimed by Canada). But this could be well represented with a UB too, as it already is.
Is the effect of the UB still happiness from horses? I think that effect is a bit odd. Tying it to horses is thematic, but I don't think it works well for gameplay or historicity. Yes, they are "mounted" police, but I don't think happiness from horses reflects their function well. It should be something with a larger impact on improved stability, or perhaps greater border integrity. Maybe something like fixed borders in RoM-AND? Could be useful if American culture expansions is an issue for the UHV.
Another possibility is a building that prevents or reduces the chance of a city breaking away due to collapsing stability. I think there would have to be a cap on how many you can build to keep it balanced, but it could work if the Canadian core were reduced to just southern Ontario and (maybe) Quebec. It would make the UHV a balancing act between fast expansion and managing stability and reflect the effort of central Canada to keep the rest of Canada together and out of American hands.
No. One UB, 1+ UU for each civilisation.
wikipedia said:Avro Canada was a Canadian aircraft manufacturing company. It started in 1945 as an aircraft plant and within thirteen years became the third-largest company in Canada, one of the largest 100 companies in the world, and directly employing over 50,000.
Polling my fellow Canadian historians amateur and otherwise Mounties (Quote: "RCMP built Canada, it's how we stole the West") and Coureur de bois came up. Among others:The coureurs de bois or voyageurs as explorer replacement would probably be my preferred choice, if it wasn't pretty much completely unviable given that it's the wrong timeframe for the civ.
In my 2nd UU modcomp, I used the Avro Arrow as the 2nd Canadian UU. I made it cheaper and gave it a bit more range.
Pros:
- Properly Canadian
- Art available
- The aren't many air UU, while there are many naval UU. (Although there are no lategame naval UU except the Corvette) It will make the UU roster a bit more diverse.
Cons:
- Also not really relevant for most Canadian games
- Only 5 built IRL. I don't think it has a huge historical significance. Although it can be used to represent more than just the plane:
Huh, I'd never actually heard of it. It's quite cool (and I agree with everyone that it's better than the Corvette), but yeah a cancelled project is probably not the best UU idea.In my 2nd UU modcomp, I used the Avro Arrow as the 2nd Canadian UU. I made it cheaper and gave it a bit more range.
Rurales are a fair point. In that case I am also interested in alternative Mexican UU ideas.
How about a spy with a less-powerful Great Statesman effect (renamed Diplomat or Chargé d'affaires)?
I got another idea: the Canadian Rangers. They're a reservist organization, mostly made up of indigenous people, who patrol the less inhabited parts of the country. They have existed since 1947. Not sure what unit they would replace or what their extra ability could be. Extra movement/strength on tundra or ice?
Mounted Police as a civilian unit.It's not a bizarre requirement to have military units in the military, so shut it.
Except for the Pioneer... but whatever we don't need to give it fighting functions. Most of my suggestions for actual functions in my original post were civilian functions but you still dismissed it off-hand. I honestly don't think Canada has much use for a fighting or military unit.Civilian units cannot fight in this game.
RCMP aside, would you be open to more suggestions for a civilian UU for Canada?Civilian units cannot fight in this game.