Civilization 5

[alejjak]

I've been a civ fan since its early stages (CIV DOS), but lately since CIV4 has been under a new company, i've seen that too many mods are just loosing the identity of the game. CIV is turning into another commercial venue that only makes the stock holders happy.
I like expansion packs but I dont think that creating 5 -10 expansion packs makes sense, Sid Meier's idea of the game is that of a game that makes history, that is human history, its a game i know but it still what makes it so unique is the fact that every game is different and the players' decisions makes every game different, thus making different history.
I'm not looking forward to buying expansion packs since I just look at them as more venues for the company (stop being so greedy). Look at what happened with age of empires too many mods into a game thats poorly entertaining anymore.
Well I guess thats the purpose of games: make money, it always has, but its sad to see this wonderful game to fade away without pride.
So thats my suggestion: NO MORE EXP. PACKS !

 

[rysmiel]

I have never created 1,000 combat units in all the time that I've played Civ4. The closest I got was about 150 units which is about 3 lines on a screen resolution of 1920x1200.

Getting a thousand combat units on a larger map in Civ 3 is fairly straightforward; I think this represents a shift in philosophy between Civ 3 and Civ 4, and that is one of the ones I would very much like to see reversed, is my point.

 

[rysmiel]

True enough, but none of those helped to build space ships in space. They advanced the space program, of course, but they were built by launching parts strapped to rockets* into orbit. A space station should provide some other benefit, perhaps protection from alien abduction.

* Sure, not exactly, but essentially. The point of the space elevator is to make this process cheaper, easier and safer -- thus the bonus when building SS parts.

In an ideal world, Civ 5 would have a space layer where you assemble a presence in space, first with rockets, then with space shuttles, and possibly eventually with a space elevator, and you could build your starship there, and capture bits from your rivals and so on.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

I've been a civ fan since its early stages (CIV DOS), but lately since CIV4 has been under a new company, i've seen that too many mods are just loosing the identity of the game. CIV is turning into another commercial venue that only makes the stock holders happy.
I like expansion packs but I dont think that creating 5 -10 expansion packs makes sense, Sid Meier's idea of the game is that of a game that makes history, that is human history, its a game i know but it still what makes it so unique is the fact that every game is different and the players' decisions makes every game different, thus making different history.
I'm not looking forward to buying expansion packs since I just look at them as more venues for the company (stop being so greedy). Look at what happened with age of empires too many mods into a game thats poorly entertaining anymore.
Well I guess thats the purpose of games: make money, it always has, but its sad to see this wonderful game to fade away without pride.
So thats my suggestion: NO MORE EXP. PACKS !

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Getting a thousand combat units on a larger map in Civ 3 is fairly straightforward; I think this represents a shift in philosophy between Civ 3 and Civ 4, and that is one of the ones I would very much like to see reversed, is my point.

Not I. That would just be another kind of extreme micromanagement, in my opinion.

 

[Matthew5117]

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

Yeah think? (sarcasm)

 

[exhile]

Getting a thousand combat units on a larger map in Civ 3 is fairly straightforward; I think this represents a shift in philosophy between Civ 3 and Civ 4, and that is one of the ones I would very much like to see reversed, is my point.

That reminds me, I want the return of Army units where 3 or 4 units create a super unit. That Army unit was like a super powerful unit and I have only had 4 or 5 of them at one time throughout my gameplay of Civ3. I still have never gotten a thousand units on a large map in Civ3 either. Unit promotions are here to stay and will be in Civilization 5.

 

[exhile]

True enough, but none of those helped to build space ships in space. They advanced the space program, of course, but they were built by launching parts strapped to rockets* into orbit. A space station should provide some other benefit, perhaps protection from alien abduction.

* Sure, not exactly, but essentially. The point of the space elevator is to make this process cheaper, easier and safer -- thus the bonus when building SS parts.

I don't believe there will ever be a space elevator in my life time or Sid Meier's life time.

 

[Matthew5117]

I don't believe there will ever be a space elevator in my life time or Sid Meier's life time.

Wrong, they have already found all the materials they're going to use and they only need to build it. Also, they're planning of building it in the middle of the Pacific Ocean where weather is to the minimal amount, 2050 is the due date.

No online sources, just a DVD from Discovery Store (Title: 2050).

Edit: Oh, wait, it depends on your age, if you are young, you might be able to travel on it but if you are older, maybe not.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

I will, hopefully, still be kicking then.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Just the way gold, copper or other goodies can suddenly appear in a mine, I wish that sometimes a grassland could pop a horse. Quite generally, it's a little weird that horses are static resources you can't breed yourself after having bought some. Actually, it might be even better if you could found your own horse pasture after having imported or stolen enough horses from others.

And do away with the fricking spy spamming in BtS! It drives me nuts.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

I'm with ya, I can't get a good city without my neighbor poisoning my Water Supply.

 

[EmperorFool]

I'm with ya, I can't get a good city without my neighbor poisoning my Water Supply.

Why is your neighbor still alive?

 

[AlexanderGreat4]

Should have Canada as civ.

 

[AlexanderGreat4]

Wrong, they have already found all the materials they're going to use and they only need to build it. Also, they're planning of building it in the middle of the Pacific Ocean where weather is to the minimal amount, 2050 is the due date.

No online sources, just a DVD from Discovery Store (Title: 2050).

Edit: Oh, wait, it depends on your age, if you are young, you might be able to travel on it but if you are older, maybe not.

You don't really believe that garbage do you?

A space elevator would be impractical. It would cost far too much and would be nearly impossible to construct, even in the future. Besides, if nations pooled their money and resourses together (the US would be dead by now) there would be a constant fued and many wars over ownership. And it would still always be open to colapse, whether from nature, wars, or te fact that the satalite it would connect to in space could go too fast or in the wrong direction and would rip it in half.

 

[bonafide11]

I don't think there will be a Civ V. At least not for a long, long, time.

 

[Matthew5117]

A space elevator would be impractical. It would cost far too much and would be nearly impossible to construct, even in the future. Besides, if nations pooled their money and resourses together (the US would be dead by now) there would be a constant fued and many wars over ownership. And it would still always be open to colapse, whether from nature, wars, or te fact that the satalite it would connect to in space could go too fast or in the wrong direction and would rip it in half.

Why would it be impossible to construct a Space Elevator? Concerning money, Tiger Woods is building a 1.1 billion dollar golf course. Think what businesses could do. There's nothing that isn't allowing it to be built.

Whoever builds it, owns it. It's basically an attraction, companies can make money from it. No one would argue about ownership.

Again, the elevator is destined to be placed in the Pacific Ocean, not many wars go on there. It is also placed in a specific place in the Pacific Ocean where there is minimum weather. It wouldn't collapse because a space station outside orbit is what supports the structure, not the track itself.

If a satellite ripped the supporting beam for the elevator in half, casualties would result in no more than 25 people. (the elevator doesn't carry hundreds of people). If a satellite crashed in North America, like New York, more people would die there. Moreover, how frequent are satellite failures, and what are the chances it would hit the elevator out of all the other places? Even so, the beam could withstand the impact (it is a different fibre from what is commonly used today, woven in an unique style to maximize the strength).

You could say the exact same thing about buildings, "what if..."?

So stop complaining.

 

[AlexanderGreat4]

Why would it be impossible to construct a Space Elevator? Concerning money, Tiger Woods is building a 1.1 billion dollar golf course. Think what businesses could do. There's nothing that isn't allowing it to be built.

Whoever builds it, owns it. It's basically an attraction, companies can make money from it. No one would argue about ownership.

Again, the elevator is destined to be placed in the Pacific Ocean, not many wars go on there. It is also placed in a specific place in the Pacific Ocean where there is minimum weather. It wouldn't collapse because a space station outside orbit is what supports the structure, not the track itself.

If a satellite ripped the supporting beam for the elevator in half, casualties would result in no more than 25 people. (the elevator doesn't carry hundreds of people). If a satellite crashed in North America, like New York, more people would die there. Moreover, how frequent are satellite failures, and what are the chances it would hit the elevator out of all the other places? Even so, the beam could withstand the impact (it is a different fibre from what is commonly used today, woven in an unique style to maximize the strength).

You could say the exact same thing about buildings, "what if..."?

So stop complaining.

1.1 billion is nothing. This would cost in the TENS OF TRILLIONS! If that fell it would be a catastrophe. There is no point for the world to risk so much on something essentialy useless. As for the wars, it would take more than 1 nation to fund it, and the middle of the ocian belongs to no country. Wars would be fought with fighters and naval battles, and there would have to be a large platfom to hold it. The only way to hold no-man's-land is by force, and would stage a large war, perhaps worldwide. The building in space would have to be exact with the Earths rotation as the beam would connect the surface station and the one in space. If it drifted to far off perfect, the beam would bend and snap.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

I don't think there will be a Civ V. At least not for a long, long, time.

From various statements (by Sid Meier among others), I think it's fairly certain that there will be one.

 

[EmperorFool]

From various statements (by Sid Meier among others), I think it's fairly certain that there will be one.

Sid Meier's funding a Space Elevator? Wow, very cool. I had no idea the Civ franchise was that successful!